Official Map Thread :- One

Hi there, love what you've done with the place. I know I've not got much in the way of official work done yet, which is also why I posted my rough draft stuff in link form to demonstrate that it is coming, and in order to not have "my mess" (ie plans) curfuffled, I figured I might go ahead and post my request. The black dot on the spot is the location of Chernovy's capital, "Radagora."

Please excuse ignorance if someone has claimed this already. If they have, we should fight for it and let the gods decide the rightness of our cause(s).

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Name of Country :- Federal Commonwealth of Gallega (Republica Fedralá Gallétzia, Tuavlaíta Galléga)
Capital:- Dinasdánu
Location of Capital:- (the islands in the central Thaumantic are on the right)
Capital: Dinasdánu
Large cities: Argovia, Cetobriga, Aontúria
Other cities: Eluetios, Venasque, Histria, St. Brígida
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Chernovy said:

Hi there, love what you've done with the place. I know I've not got much in the way of official work done yet, which is also why I posted my rough draft stuff in link form to demonstrate that it is coming, and in order to not have "my mess" (ie plans) curfuffled, I figured I might go ahead and post my request. The black dot on the spot is the location of Chernovy's capital, "Radagora."

Please excuse ignorance if someone has claimed this already. If they have, we should fight for it and let the gods decide the rightness of our cause(s).

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Might it be possible for you to find another spot? That area is already firmly "Asia" - that is, for Indian/Buddhist sort of nations, as I've also told Anderin before. Perhaps NE of Kadiki?

It's not that I don't want neighbors, but aside from the ethnic clustering concerns my RP would no longer work by being boxed in by Slavic nations.

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Name of Country :- Vulpiria
Capital :- Sol'Mantel
Location of Capital :- (the star on the map)

Kashtan said:

Might it be possible for you to find another spot? That area is already firmly "Asia" - that is, for Indian/Buddhist sort of nations, as I've also told Anderin before. Perhaps NE of Kadiki?

It's not that I don't want neighbors, but aside from the ethnic clustering concerns my RP would no longer work by being boxed in by Slavic nations.

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How about Jurzan? Is he/that nation active? Would it be possible to get it moved or greened? If so, I might like the spot reshaped slightly to retain some cohesion of my own with planned cultural and historical ties with Ostrovakia.

*Edit* Or even the addition of an island, or pair/trio of largish Mediterranean sized islands, if not Jurzan?

Or what exactly is being done with Kadikistan/Kyiv?

Chernovy said:

How about Jurzan? Is he/that nation active? Would it be possible to get it moved or greened? If so, I might like the spot reshaped slightly to retain some cohesion of my own with planned cultural and historical ties with Ostrovakia.

*Edit* Or even the addition of an island, or pair/trio of largish Mediterranean sized islands, if not Jurzan?

Or what exactly is being done with Kadikistan/Kyiv?

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Jurzan should be available since the player is now @Arcadia. If you decided Togo to that spot, Kadiki, Jurzan and me have been rping that eastern part to be inhabitated by tribal Muslims and desert/mountain terrain, so I hope we could maintain that.

As for reshaping, what did you have in mind? It's might a bit hard to move it closer to Ostrovakia if that is what you are thinking, since it would deprive me of Ocean access. But maybe we can work something out.

I can for sure do mountainous, and even arid - though I don't know how "desert" I'd prefer to go really. My conception of the nation has largely been one of Anatolian or Iberian climatic spread, so something on the order of "very arid" along the border in your direction won't be entirely out of the realm of the possible. The imagery of the vine figures so prominently in the flag of Chernovy because it is a "wine country," and a large portion of it must be fertile and temperate enough for the grapes to grow to make the wine to justify the association and all the historical development that's plotted thus far.

So far as Muslims, I'd originally intended to have as few as possible, and to go with a Jewish Khazar group as the main minority, but don't mind including some for the sake of regional continuity. I would not mind making the Kourmanji (or however it's spelled, I'm going off a single reference in recalling the name there) a fixture of the hinterlands, though I'd also prefer to leave any assets associated with Jurzan alone in case he wants to start the nation over somewhere else in the region at some point. This wouldn't be to the exclusion of the Khazars, whatever they end up being named, as they figure rather prominently in the history of both Chernovy and Ostrovakia - they are planned to have been more of a thing on the other sides of our countries from you though so that much shouldn't be a big factor. Of note also might be the Arrety minority, intended to be something of a Galatians-like group that have persisted from a time similar to the 3rd Century migration that brought the Galatians to Anatolia, with these Arrety having survived and been acclimated to life on the steppe and/or highland valleys of the region throughout this time, as well as having been deeply (and drastically) impacted by the arrival of the Vyhoric people (our Slavic ancestors) and the likely simultaneous rise of Islam. They figure into Chernovy's history also, and very likely could be partly or mostly Muslim, adding some spice to the dynamics there as well. Zeek intends to start a nation with this group as the majority once he's done with some family vacationing.

And for the reshaping, no, I don't intend or want to cut you off from sea access, but maybe create something of a straits (more like Hormuz than the Dardanelles) that might allow for some element of historical tension and current affairs roleplay...but elongating the spot maybe, and stretching it to the southeast slightly and making up some of the distance with islands (in the manner of Aegean sized). Once we're back from today's baby doctor appointment (which will be early AM, to be clear) I will do a little hand scribble for what I have in mind and link it here, cheers for now.

I couldn't find a blank map, so I used my own map, hopefully that won't be too much trouble.
I'd appreciate it if you could add these cities to Pelasgia, if possible:
I know they're a bunch, so I just want the cities with yellow or gold dots in their locations (regional capitals and the national capital) on there for sure. The others, you can just add any that wouldn't make your life too hard to fit in. Thanks in advance!

PS: I'm thinking of changing Pelasgia to Southern Tiburan Empire on the map (perhaps putting Pelasgia in parentheses under it could help avoid confusion). Thoughts?

PPS: I forgot to add that all the cities to be added on the map are equal to or over 2.5 million people.

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Location of Capital :- the Red dot in the center
Name of Country :- Occitania
Capital :- Marsilia

I'd like to rename the gulf that contains the island my capital is on to the gulf of Naiketas if that's allowed.

I was wondering if I could make an addition to my nations territory.
If its too big I would be alright with making it smaller.
The region is called Al-Kez
the circle is the capital Rouadi

As a bunch of people are coming onto the forum I just wanted to put it down somewhere that Engellex had approached me about potentially expanding Kashtan a bit more into the empty area east of me - we'll discuss that more when he is back, just wanted to put it out there before anyone claims it.

Wooo! I got actual neighbours everywhere now. No more lands of dragons and fairies!

Engellex, as I understand it, the areas east of Kashtan is being reworked and Kashtan is being increased in size. I'd like to make a claim for everything east of Kashtan and reaching to complete, in totality, the border with Shenzhou. I do not need a lot of space, so make Kashtan the size you see fit.

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(Red desired, blue is optional - Kashtan takes priority. Northern maximum limit is shown - I don't really want pixels but I also don't want empty space that will never get filled by anyone - if area is being changed in appearance, just adjust these claims to fit the redesign)
Name of Country :- Xinhai
Capital :- Yijing
Location of Capital :- Oh mighty mapmaker, place this where thou deemst it best fits
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Desired color: something red

Might be useful to expand that area to the East then? I've got a few folks that would be very interested in playing nations of that flavor, and one has already bumped into this issue in formulating his RP concepts, as have I (and a few others are represented in this thread). There seems to be less available space to play interesting and underrepresented groups such as the Slavs, Turks or the aforementioned Eastern Groups as things exist now. Some of the nations we have already take up quite a bit of the map space available, and while I have absolutely no interest in seeing those nations shrunk (as large nations are a reality IRL, and add quite a bit of character and flavor to our own world), I wonder if it might not behoove us to expand, or rearrange these regions slightly in order to avoid any possible frustrations in the future? That would still allow for Xen to pursue his vision of Kashtan's RP as he intended, and for Kadikistan to remain the obviously significant force in international affairs (by dint of enormity and immediate association with "oh ok, something like the Soviets, but not") that it is intended to be, while allowing for us and newer players to be able to pursue our own visions without coming to some sort of loggerheads over something so simple as pixelated real estate before there's even any RP to have rulings over.

Xinhai said:

Engellex, as I understand it, the areas east of Kashtan is being reworked and Kashtan is being increased in size. I'd like to make a claim for everything east of Kashtan and reaching to complete, in totality, the border with Shenzhou. I do not need a lot of space, so make Kashtan the size you see fit.

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Name of Country :- Xinhai
Capital :- Yijing
Location of Capital :- Oh mighty mapmaker, place this where thou deemst it best fits
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Desired color: something red

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Wouldn't it make sense you to take the top blue section and the red bit and then allow Xen to expand more fully eastwards?

Trivodnia said:

Wouldn't it make sense you to take the top blue section and the red bit and then allow Xen to expand more fully eastwards?

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Yes. That's why I colored it different, I'm leaving it up to the map maker, I just want to make it clear that I want no gaps between Kashtan and myself. Ideally, Kashtan is enlarged to those lakes, but I don't think I can request map changes for someone else on this thread. So in lieu of that, I made a real claim, and then secondary ones that I expressly stated as being secondary to Kashtan's expansion or any regional map design changes. If that all was unclear, I can even change it on the linked image to depict that.

Right, let's get this cleared and updated. If possible can everyone have any changes in mind posted by tomorrow afternoon, thanks.

I'll respond to requests in a moment.

Between Gunnland and Kadikistan
Name: Elben
Capital: Eschenbach
Location of capital: black dot on the map above
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Anderin said:

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Name of Country :- Federal Commonwealth of Gallega (Republica Fedralá Gallétzia, Tuavlaíta Galléga)
Capital:- Dinasdánu
Location of Capital:-

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(the islands in the central Thaumantic are on the right)
Capital: Dinasdánu
Large cities: Argovia, Cetobriga, Aontúria
Other cities: Eluetios, Venasque, Histria, St. Brígida
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I'll grant the islands around St. Brígida, not below. So, four in total. Reasoning being that other players may be interested in applying for some or one of them, and I am reluctant to place additional islands in that area.