Another map poll, wow

[Socialist Commonwealth]

I don't see the need to rule out Bantu in southern Himyar completely if players show up who are interested in playing a black African nation, I'm only saying that most of Occidentia could easily be transplanted to Himyar by assuming there are large areas there that were depopulated by European diseases and colonial violence similiar to what happened in America, so that the colonial state that developed there are entirely European in nature.

 

[Touzen]

As for contained world or not, I'd think the rest of the world could exist, so that we can expand the map in an unlikely future of crass overdemand requiring us to open up new map space. Maybe it could even be referenced in special events and such, while keeping the focus on the Europe and its surroundings area depicted by the map.

 

[Rheinbund]

I realize that. Mine was just an attempt to weed out the option that is attached to a frustrated mapmaker that in the future will make one or two updates, but than realizes all the requests and complaints are too much and just gives up on it, leaving us with nothing. I think we've got a good thing going now. There is hardly any rp here anyway. Maybe I should have just said that

Ehm, I already said that there is something being brewed around the Long Sea Please check with Auraria, Sikandara, Edessine Empire, Ovi and me

And therefore, I think it would be better if we stick for the current map at least for now and see how things will go. We can always turn Northern Hymiar into an extension of Eurodisney, or the areas east of current Eurodisney.

EDIT: And with all due respect, this kind of discussions is sucking up time available for RPing

 

[Thaumantica]

EDIT: And with all due respect, this kind of discussions is sucking up time available for RPing

Which is why I tried to put any overhaul that isn't coming tomorrow, next week, or any time soon on the backburner for at least the summer.

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I've been wondering on the merits and demerits of waiting though, because some people might just wait out the whole summer or kind of relax during this time knowing that a change is coming. Then I started to wonder about whether it's comfortable for people to think the map is FOREVER . . Then I stopped to think about it all because I don't know. In any case I still suggest a map team, that we wait until Coro is back, Davy too, and this Ulst character so they can collaborate.

 

[Rheinbund]

Well, there are more than enough plans for RPs. Let's close this discussion as soon as possible and meanwhile RP further, or develop more RP plans.

EDIT: Or let's start with the plans already present.

 

[Salen]

I simply want to state the following: for the past few weeks there has been the debate that a map revision would be beneficial to increase role-play as some areas on the map are inactive or less crowded as others. We all know this will always be the case, no matter what map type you're using. A new map will certainly therefore not solve all issues but on the other hand I do think the status quo will be less helpful. So, we'd have to take measures eventually, right? =) We all want to stimulate role-play in one way or another!

The thing is, my current map proposal isn't something new anyway. Okay, boundaries might be different but the overall layout and general features resemble our current map. It's only made smaller in proportion to strengthen inter-regional ties and thus it is a more 'distilled edition' in a way that it is more adjacent, so it would stimulate possible role-play scenario's. Basically existing role-play scenarios are as easily applicable to this draft, so in the meanwhile we can just continue our plots. And additionally as you all know there's a shift in size concerning the continents - to correspond with the actual needs (i.e. the number of players willing to play in a certain area). So just an overall statement why I do think it would be good to use this template, whilst not yet fully finished/fitted to everyone's liking.

Though nothing is binding and that we all agree - and so do I - that we ought to focus or would like to return to extensively role-playing again; we might have to consider some interference or adaptations in the near or distant future nonetheless. So yes, hopefully we can continue our writing without getting caught up in endless conversation - I am applauding decisive action over here! ; )

Moreover, concerning what to preserve or what to drop in terms of land: we could hold a general survey of what people in a first and/or second option would like to play (European? Asian? What ideology or state? etc.)? And finally, perhaps we could develop a system in which every player could have a 'main nation' and up to two secondary nations. We all sometimes have the urge to switch skins now, don't we; so this could perhaps lessen the number of players suddenly moving or overhauling their nation. =)

 

[Khemia]

Which is why I tried to put any overhaul that isn't coming tomorrow, next week, or any time soon on the backburner for at least the summer.

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I've been wondering on the merits and demerits of waiting though, because some people might just wait out the whole summer or kind of relax during this time knowing that a change is coming. Then I started to wonder about whether it's comfortable for people to think the map is FOREVER . . Then I stopped to think about it all because I don't know. In any case I still suggest a map team, that we wait until Coro is back, Davy too, and this Ulst character so they can collaborate.

As an "Asian" nation, it is difficult finding the motivation to move forward with some of my planned RP knowing that it could be wiped off the map. I don't mind changing nations if the map doesn't allow me to continue as Yujin, but it's difficult to get back to active and push forward with something more intensive than news RP with the uncertainty hanging over everything.

Moreover, concerning what to preserve or what to drop in terms of land: we could hold a general survey of what people in a first and/or second option would like to play (European? Asian? What ideology or state? etc.)? And finally, perhaps we could develop a system in which every player could have a 'main nation' and up to two secondary nations. We all sometimes have the urge to switch skins now, don't we; so this could perhaps lessen the number of players suddenly moving or overhauling their nation. =)

The general survey should allow people to vote for more than one item. Individuals like me are just as able to play Asian as other nations, though I prefer Chinese I also really enjoy MENA region countries and can even do something S.E. European.

 

[Salen]

As an "Asian" nation, it is difficult finding the motivation to move forward with some of my planned RP knowing that it could be wiped off the map. I don't mind changing nations if the map doesn't allow me to continue as Yujin, but it's difficult to get back to active and push forward with something more intensive than news RP with the uncertainty hanging over everything.

And so is the case for my Heroquoian project; thought it would be somewhat original and subsequently a bit more exciting to play with than the standard European country. I could keep/return to my Ulstland but I'd rather focus on Heroquoia.

 

[Oneida]

I don't want to be that guy, but it seems like this is the third time a majority has voted to change the map and it has not happened.

 

[Khemia]

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Let's not forget this thread was intended to consolidate discussion, not actually implement change. They're putting their fingers to the pulse of the forum before they make a change.

 

[Pelasgia]

Given the fact that a major RP is being brewed (troubles between Auraria and Sikandara), I think it would be best to keep the current map, on second thought. We will see how to fill up the empty spaces. I know that Eurodisney is a popular location for most countries, but then let's decide that a larger part of the continent Eurodisney is situated on will be considered Eurodisney.

I agree on that.

 

[Oneida]

I agree on that.

I agree with my good friend from the Edessine Empire

 

[Caelia]

There a lot of nations that need to be removed for inactivity. So more Eurodisney may not even be necessary.

 

[Serenierre]

True.

 

[Pelasgia]

I agree with my good friend from the Edessine Empire

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[Touzen]

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If I'm not mistaken, those are the nations that will be gone in that area after the inactives are removed. It doesn't look much better in the rest of the world. Basically, clustering is very urgently needed. The rest of us need to be close to each other and interact with each other more. It's entire pointless to spread ourselves thin across the world.

 

[Caelia]

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If I'm not mistaken, those are the nations that will be gone in that area after the inactives are removed. It doesn't look much better in the rest of the world. Basically, clustering is very urgently needed. The rest of us need to be close to each other and interact with each other more. It's entire pointless to spread ourselves thin across the world.

It's worse than I thought.

 

[Sixia]

Jesus christ that's a lot of free room.

What's the criteria for being inactive and removed again? How long have all of those players been inactive?

I think Portusgalia posted recently but I don't think it was a IC/RP post.

 

[Salen]

What about nations like Ostveg, Nichstein, Twente and Coeurléon?

 

[Thaumantica]

I remove based on a 60+ day last RP post or 30+ day last OOC post/logged in, and then don't remove people who have absence thread or general absence posts. Granted though I've let a few slip for a long time with being busy. Later today or tonight I want to go through and apply that basic rule and see what happens. It'll be a big purge, but not as large as the map above unless we want to adopt stricter rules than this.