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Vistarika

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Let me know when you're about to start on the next update, if you please, and I'll get a revised city map up for inclusion.
 

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The Blue dot is Sandycroft
Red is Penydarren
black is Checkpoint Cogan

I know various people claiming islands around here, if possible could one of the islands in the green circle be the Free State of Lly Bochlwyd?
 

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Is there any way for me to claim the League Mandate with Hierosolyma? From what I understand, it is supposed to fill in for the absence of Pelasgia (just by looking at the cities). If so, I would like to claim that and a chunk of the surrounding territory on the Himyari side.

If not, I'll try to come up with a claim, probably involving the neighouring territory. Pelasgia is supposed to have lost a big war in 1950, so it could have lost that territory then.
 

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I've filed a claim for it, Jerusalem, but don't precisely know where it (the claim) will go. I do have plans for it though, and have roleplayed some activity there.
 
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Is there any way for me to claim the League Mandate with Hierosolyma? From what I understand, it is supposed to fill in for the absence of Pelasgia (just by looking at the cities). If so, I would like to claim that and a chunk of the surrounding territory on the Himyari side.

If not, I'll try to come up with a claim, probably involving the neighouring territory. Pelasgia is supposed to have lost a big war in 1950, so it could have lost that territory then.
I've filed a claim for it, Jerusalem, but don't precisely know where it (the claim) will go. I do have plans for it though, and have roleplayed some activity there.
While I understand the desire to “claim” Jerusalem, it is under Mandate in RP and the prior talks about it were open to Josepania controlling it. As Josepania quit, his former territory was decided to become a mandate and mandates have certain RP elements to them that need to be observed. As it stands in the Mandates we seem to have Vistarika (and maybe others as well like Demos?) in Jerusalem, Serbovia and Tarusa in the Euro Mandate (confirmed and finalized), Remion in the former Petits-Pays Mandate (if I recall correctly?) and Eiffelland in the former Remion Mandate (confirmed and finalized). If there are other works in play it would probably be wise of me to keep a nice list somewhere, but I’ve been more waiting for RP elements to determine this better.

Soon I suppose, the “European Forum” will come to life and with it the politics that come with Mandate RP.

Otherwise, Pelasgia is more than welcome to take the remaining mandate, parts or as a whole, as part of his RP idea/plot, or draw some of his own borders that consume some of it plus neighboring space.

Lastly, I urge discussions on this redraw and the mandates not be held by PM so that way those who actually do the mapping decisions are informed on how this progresses without needing to ask or be briefed from a variety of primary or secondary sources with back door agreements that the map team or the mod team or the admin team might not be supportive of.

Thanks! I hope this clarifies things a bit and is exactly the sort of news you guys wanted to hear anyhow.

EDIT: There is a very very good thread made by Serbovia on Thrakia (the Euro Mandate), where open coordination is made. (See: ) I recommend a similar thread by made for all other mandates by the interested players.
 

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While I understand the desire to “claim” Jerusalem, it is under Mandate in RP and the prior talks about it were open to Josepania controlling it. As Josepania quit, his former territory was decided to become a mandate and mandates have certain RP elements to them that need to be observed. As it stands in the Mandates we seem to have Vistarika (and maybe others as well like Demos?) in Jerusalem, Serbovia and Tarusa in the Euro Mandate (confirmed and finalized), Remion in the former Petits-Pays Mandate (if I recall correctly?) and Eiffelland in the former Remion Mandate (confirmed and finalized). If there are other works in play it would probably be wise of me to keep a nice list somewhere, but I’ve been more waiting for RP elements to determine this better.

Soon I suppose, the “European Forum” will come to life and with it the politics that come with Mandate RP.

Otherwise, Pelasgia is more than welcome to take the remaining mandate, parts or as a whole, as part of his RP idea/plot, or draw some of his own borders that consume some of it plus neighboring space.

Lastly, I urge discussions on this redraw and the mandates not be held by PM so that way those who actually do the mapping decisions are informed on how this progresses without needing to ask or be briefed from a variety of primary or secondary sources with back door agreements that the map team or the mod team or the admin team might not be supportive of.

Thanks! I hope this clarifies things a bit and is exactly the sort of news you guys wanted to hear anyhow.
Yeah for sure, as I noted before I will work within the structure of the Mandate system, but just need to know what that entails, as I do have things I would like to do there. Vistarika would of a certainty have historical interests in the region, as has been discussed at length in other threads, and I've established that the Vistarikan Crown is active in the Holy Land, with the Queen Mother spending the holidays there.

I was and am cool with it being a Mandate, but likewise had already noted I wanted it if it was up to claim, and figured it best to reiterate now.
 

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Yeah for sure, as I noted before I will work within the structure of the Mandate system, but just need to know what that entails, as I do have things I would like to do there. Vistarika would of a certainty have historical interests in the region, as has been discussed at length in other threads, and I've established that the Vistarikan Crown is active in the Holy Land, with the Queen Mother spending the holidays there.

I was and am cool with it being a Mandate, but likewise had already noted I wanted it if it was up to claim, and figured it best to reiterate now.
I’ll make it a priority to get the Mandates more clear and functional in RP with the administration this January:banana:
 

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Otherwise, Pelasgia is more than welcome to take the remaining mandate, parts or as a whole, as part of his RP idea/plot, or draw some of his own borders that consume some of it plus neighboring space.
That sounds like a workable solution. I'll try to come up with a map claim. Pelasgia's right wing opposition can keep bitching about Jerusalem to no end IC.
 

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While I understand the desire to “claim” Jerusalem, it is under Mandate in RP and the prior talks about it were open to Josepania controlling it. As Josepania quit, his former territory was decided to become a mandate and mandates have certain RP elements to them that need to be observed. As it stands in the Mandates we seem to have Vistarika (and maybe others as well like Demos?) in Jerusalem, Serbovia and Tarusa in the Euro Mandate (confirmed and finalized), Remion in the former Petits-Pays Mandate (if I recall correctly?) and Eiffelland in the former Remion Mandate (confirmed and finalized). If there are other works in play it would probably be wise of me to keep a nice list somewhere, but I’ve been more waiting for RP elements to determine this better.

Soon I suppose, the “European Forum” will come to life and with it the politics that come with Mandate RP.

Otherwise, Pelasgia is more than welcome to take the remaining mandate, parts or as a whole, as part of his RP idea/plot, or draw some of his own borders that consume some of it plus neighboring space.

Lastly, I urge discussions on this redraw and the mandates not be held by PM so that way those who actually do the mapping decisions are informed on how this progresses without needing to ask or be briefed from a variety of primary or secondary sources with back door agreements that the map team or the mod team or the admin team might not be supportive of.

Thanks! I hope this clarifies things a bit and is exactly the sort of news you guys wanted to hear anyhow.

EDIT: There is a very very good thread made by Serbovia on Thrakia (the Euro Mandate), where open coordination is made. (See: ) I recommend a similar thread by made for all other mandates by the interested players.
As far as I knew, I had no international mandate on any piece of land, in fact, my former colony was under Eiffelland administration. This is fine with me, it creates that resentment of losers that distinguishes Remion.

The only piece of land that I administer, as an overseas region and not a colony, is Porto Tien.
 

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Based , I would like to claim this territory, with Propontis as the capital. It will not include Jerusalem and Sidon, as they are parts of the mandate, but I would still like Constantinis/Propontis and Edessa-Antioch, as they were major cities of Pelasgia.

Location :- (see map above)
Name of Country :- Pelasgia
Capital :- Propontis
Location of Capital :- (see map above)

Additional Major Cities and Locations :- I've included a few major cities. Feel free to include as many as you can can. Propontis is the capital, but it is also a Holy City (like Tibur). I don't know if you can mark that.
 
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