[Discussion] Lethonian Breaches of Security

[Tarusa]

Master Baron Boris Bakhmeteff, Tarusan Representative to EF

It is an unfortunate event that I must now be bringing forth yet another discussion on the events that have transpired due to the former state of Pannonia and the rise of tensions in the region due to the Germanic nations that bordered Pannonia and forced its dismantling.

I will start by addressing the members of this chamber by pointing out the most grotesque of violations by the Lethonians and Thuringians. An agreement had been reached in Chagny between all the powers that were involved in the affairs of former Pannonia that would have led to a de-escalation and a hopeful end to the affair once and for all. The Referendum was called for, observed, and even under foreign observation it was determined by votes that the Bourdignie nation was to cede the Patois dominated region to the Frankish Empire, and that the armed forced of Lethonia and Thuringau would withdraw.

The Patois regions have been demarcated and ceded to the Frankish Empire as was called for, that part of the agreement has been fulfilled. The grotesque violation I bring forth for discussion in this body is that of the lack of action on the withdrawal of the foreign germanic forces inside of Bourdignie. One can see that it is nothing more than stalling tactics to further precipitate the continued involvement and occupation of the former Pannonian state that was voted against and called for the withdraw. Observers from San Jose were witness to the vote and can verify the results here in this body. The Empire has said it before and is proven at the moment to be correct in our allegations that there is no desire for them to withdraw but instead annex the nation of Bourdignie into just another subservient state as they had intended from the beginning of the Pannonian crisis and their systematic dismemberment of the Pannonian state.

To further show the rogue and dangerous nature of the Lethonians and their ambitions to destabilize the Germanic region one can see the news reports of the missile test that was carried out across the gothic sea. The Lethonians acted in complete disregard for international norms and safety and carried out this test without advising neighboring Gothic Sea states and if reports are true, the main governing body of Scanlaw. This wreckless action combined with information which shows they are building weapons that are designed for usage against civilian targets is a danger we can only tolerate for so long before potential actions will have to be undertaken by my nations leaders to secure the security of the Gothic Sea and our people whom are obviously a target of these systems.

 

[Natal]

Zeferino Bastos Almeida, Beiran Representative to EF

There are two main elements that need to be discussed here. First and foremost, let's tackle the Pannonian issue, that is, the treaties signed in the aftermath of the collapse of Pannonia. We do recall that the referendum that divided the late Burgundian republic into a Patois state that joined the Holy Frankish Empire and a Germanic Rump State truly did state that the security forces of Thuringau-Lethonia need and were obliged to withdraw from the areas of the sovereign Bourgundian state. We stand thus in a unique episode of complete accord with his grace Lord Bakhmeteff, the representative of the Tarusan Empire. As substates of the Scanlaw, Thuringau-Lethonia need to be forced to respect the positions taken by Prime Minister Bakken as their representation in foreign affairs stands in Goethehavn. It is an extremely dangerous precedent that is being created and can even be compared to imperialism. The Burgundians have spoken, we ourselves may have stated that we considered the option to be an error, but it is their land and their voice and their sovereignty to elect what they want to do, going forward. The Bourgundian state has announced its neutrality ever since before the military campaign of the Holy Frankish Empire, and even with this precedent, they seem to want to continue on this path, asking for their neutrality to be respected. Hence, the United Kingdom of Beira, Natal and Andros joins the Empire of Tarusa in asking the nations of Thuringau-Lethonia to respect the Bourgundian State and withdraw.

Secondly, is the missile test that was launched from Lethonia. United Kingdom understands the needs of the world's nations to be prepared and ready to defend themselves, be it in a matter to fortify their territories to stave off invasions, or with deterrent weapons such as missile systems. What we ask for is responsibility. Such missiles can affect the lives of innocents in faraway territories so one must always tread with care with them. Hence, we fully condemn the unannounced test that took place. We will be ready to support a bill in the EF that will set up a series of rules of war, where conflicts, which realistically can never be fully avoided, can be waged in such a way to not threaten civilian lives and where human dignity is to be respected nonetheless.​

 

[Justosia]

Lord Fernando Torres, Imperial Ambassador to the EF

Fernando peered over to the Tarusan delegation trying to read them. Tarusa was a quiet but serious player. They were an absolutist people. He admired this. He didn't need instruction like the previous ambassador. The name of the game, & the costs to play were obvious. He rose.

"The Continental Empire stands in solidarity with its ally Tarusa. Peace and security in the east, especially on the seas, is sacrosanct."

 

[Jydsken-Østveg]

ON THE SUPPOSED LETHONIAN BREACHES OF SECURITY
Lena Johansson, EF Representative for the Scanlaw and Free Peoples of the North (SKÅNSKELAG)

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«Ladies and Gentlemen, my fellow friends and those less amicable alike... as stated there are two issues at hand here and it is my intention to address them in separate fashion.»

She took a quick sip of water in front of her as a means to collect herself and perhaps be more ready to speak at length.

«I do not believe that the process in question in the former Bourdignie is entirely solved. While a process has no doubt been laid out and followed in regard to the democratic process, a process we have respected and will adhere to, the results of which and how they may be administered did not have a clear route forward. I have spoken at length to my colleagues in both Gøthehavn and in Hertha and they have given me clearly different narratives but with one clear similarity: ‹the democratic process in former Bourdignie is to be respected›. The clearest difference is the timeline. Gøthehavn has it in mind that troops should leave as soon as possible, meanwhile my counterparts in Hertha and Jena for that matter do not share this belief. I can say safely that the democratic process will be adhered to once a complete government in region is formed and free and fair elections are confirmed. President Leupolz of Lethonia-Thüringäu has committed the Army to maintaining peace and preparing for their return home. The precise timeline is not currently public, and I am not at liberty to speculate or divulge their current plans. That said, I am not of the current belief that this body has any right to demand extra obligations of the Lethonians nor the Thüringäuers. They are keeping the peace and maintaining a positive environment for this new nation to rise from the ashes of Patois nationalism that cast this nation into a ruinous undesired independence».

She flipped some pages on the notebook in front of her and began to address the second issue, «as for the issue on the missile deployment, Gøthehavn has maintained a strong aversion to this missile program and the testing of it. While Hertha has taken a difference stance, we believe there are rules that can be fashioned in this body, and that Hertha may be amicable to such international systems. That said, we believe that Hertha has the right to develop such weaponry, even if we disapprove of it. Hertha shall not delegate its right to self-defense».

 

[Josepania]

Anayansi Quintanilla Cuesta, Representative of San José to the European Forum:

Honorable representatives,

Regarding the first item the Representative from Tarusa has brought foward: per the terms of the Treaty of Chagny signed in 2021, a treaty crafted in part and furthermore signed by El Presidente, José Constanza, Article 3, Section 1, Subsection 2 indicates the following:

"A no vote would result in the Republic of Thüringäu-Lethonia being mandated to, in a reasonable timeframe, withdraw all military forces from the Bourdignie Confederation and be restricted from future stationing of military forces."

I have taken the liberty of highlighting the text most relevant to this discussion. It is the opinion of San José that, legally speaking in regards to international law, the Thüringäuers and Lethonians remain in the confines of the Treaty of Chagny. That being said, we would, of course, urge the Thüringäuers and Lethonians through the Honorable Representative Johansson to make further haste on assisting the establishment of a free and democratic government in the former Bourdignie, lest that delay prompts further misunderstandings and rancorous, quarrelsome debates within the European Forum.

As a fellow signatory to the Treaty of Chagny and thus possessing an investment in the political integrity of the region, I am authorized by El Presidente José Constanza to offer Josefino assistance in ensuring a political vacuum does not follow the departure of armed forces from Thüringäu-Lethonia, which appears to be the primary stated concern.

As for the second item, I second the sentiments of the Honorable Representative Caldwell in believing that an official resolution from this body outlining guidelines of war and conflict can solve this problem created by missile tests in the Gothic Sea and diffuse future tensions from being exploited.

I yield the floor.

 

[Holy Frankish Empire]

Gabriel Ponchardier, Baron of the Empire, Acting EF Representative

The Empire rarely took the EF seriously. In fact, the Empire's representatives speaking history was almost none. There had never even been a permanent appointee. Most of the time, the HFE's representatives didn't even show up to sessions. Or if they did, they sat mute and took notes. On this day, the Frankish representative sat smirking pompously and focused more on cracking open his pistachios. It was not a great look. Then again, he was sure the others were moderately surprised he was even there. What was more surprising was the fact that the stout little man, stood and took a breath as if to speak. Perhaps not imposing at 5'5, Ponchardier had a reputation in domestic circles for having the energy of and menace of a cracked out bulldog.

"There have been several comments already, my dear fellow representatives. First, let me address the Patois. The Patois voted in a fair and open election. With an overwhelming democratic decision, they have elected to be one with the Empire. They have received incredible autonomy and retain much of their democratic way of life" he said, popping a few pistachios in his mouth; the sound of his chewing audible. "Now" he continued, with a half full mouth, "it seems to me that there are several misunderstanding". His gaze swept over those assembled. "Simply put, there seems to be a misunderstanding that Tarusa and the Empire are some kind of fools. We see a perhaps half-baked attempt to justify the fact that there are soldiers sitting around for months in a place they do not belong. My dear compatriot from San Jose does point out that the treaty spells out that troops must be removed in a reasonable timeframe" he said with a stereotypical gallic shrug. "Are we to believe that the leadership of these troops in incompetent? Too incompetent to build a timely withdrawal.... Or are we to believe that Lethonia-Thuringau has committed to a treaty they cannot uphold? Or, is the reason more sinister?" he said, eyes now flickering and darting wildly.

"I would ask the honorable representatives, which is more plausible? Perhaps I too am misunderstanding. For, I do not know which it may be. Yet......." he said, his voice leveling and any trace of mocking humor vanishing instantly- his blue-gray eyes seeming to turn to an icy gray. "....yet I feel there is another misunderstanding. There seems to be a misunderstanding that my nation, and that of Tarusa, will sit back while missiles fly. Troops are willingly stationed in direct opposition to a treaty. These are grave errors. These can be indeed, rectified. But time runs out. And tensions are to be met with tensions of levels you would not possible imagine that will make that little missile look like a child's rubber band". The short man glared at Johansson, a wolfish grin spreading across his face before he sat down.

 

[Rheinbund]

Richard Walsrode, Rheinbund's representative to the European Forum, looked at the Frankish representative. What a strange combination of pomp and lack of decorum, he thought. He hoped that the Frankish baron took a shower every day, but he feared the worst. After their victory in former Pannonia, the Frankish diplomats had suddenly grown arrogant and the Tarusan diplomats had grown even more arrogant than they already were. Both the HFE and Tarusa boasted about bringing peace to their part of the world.

Despite the fact that it happened on its doorstep, the Rheinbund had limited itself to hosting Pannonian refugees. And nowadays dropwise Csengian refugees.

Internally, the Rheinians had their opinions on the Frankish and Tarusan governments. And on the Csengian government. To the outside, the Rheinians upheld their pokerfaces and did not comment. If the Frankish and the Tarusans wanted to consider themselves peacebringers, fine. If the Queen of Csengia wants to unleash an inquisition on her people, well, it's her country. Csengia is Csengia. But indeed, the Rheinians do it differently. The Rheinbund is the Rheinbund.

Walsrode wore a dark blue suit today, with the usual white shirt under it and a tie in the same colour blue as the Rheinian flag contained. As usual, his clothes fitted perfectly. He rose and turned on his microphone.

"Let it be clear that treaties must be upheld. If the Treaty of Chagny stipulates that the Thüringäuer and Lethonian troops have to withdraw from the Burgundian rump state, then this must happen. Within a reasonable time frame, as also indicated by the Treaty of Chagny. I agree with our colleague from San José, Anayansi Quintanilla Cuesta, that a hasty withdrawal of Thüringäuer and Lethonian troops can lead to a power vacuum in the Burgundian rump state and can hamper the establishment of a stable government in the Burgundian rump state. This has to be taken into account when assessing the situation in former Pannonia and taking decisions.
I also totally agree with our colleague from the United Kingdom that we need to setup a legal framework consisting of rules according to which wars should be fought. Indeed, conflicts can never be fully avoided, so we have to make sure that they are fought in such a way that civilian lives are spared and human dignity is preserved."

 

[Pelasgia]

Antonios Antoniou, Pelasgian representative to the EF

"The crisis in Pannonia has impacted the entire continent, and, indeed, all of Europe in profound and important ways. Nonetheless, or perhaps therefore, it is imperative that all parties respect the decisions of the European Forum regarding the resolution of the crisis.

"In so far as His Imperial Majesty's Government is concerned, the Patois expressed their democratic will to exercise their right to national self-determination in favour of accession to the Holy Frankish Empire. That decision is entitled to respect. None have offered any credible evidence to contradict the process leading to that accession.

"With regard to the Germanic troops still present in Bourdignie, given their lack of any legal basis for remaining in that country, their immediate departure is required. Their continued presence would rise to the level of a violation of international law, if they are to persist in occupying territory to which they have no right, either pretended or real. We expect that the Lethonian authorities will take all necessary measures to effect a timely withdrawal; though some understanding is warranted, several months have elapsed at this point since there was any apparent juristification for a Lethonian presence in the area.

"Finally, regarding missile tests, the Pelasgian Empire does not consider the development of weapons of mass destruction and long-range delivery systems therefor to be in anyone's interest. We call upon all parties developing such horrid weapons to cease and desist immediately, lest Europe be plunged into an arms race that can only end in catastrophe."​

 

[Holy Frankish Empire]

Gabriel Ponchardier, Baron of the Empire, Acting EF Representative

Taking the time to ponder, Ponchardier slowly rose. "You see, the problem is not one of these things in particular. Rather, you see them all together. It smells foul. It smells of intentional provocation. Why? I have no idea. On one hand, a boy scout leader could put together a more reasonable timetable for the withdrawal of troops. The world speaks of Germanic efficiency. I see none here. On the other hand, we have intelligence showing that our illustrious neighbors are building a genocidal weapons program" Ponchardier said, shaking his head.

" Intelligence suggests that much of the Kingdom of Bourgogne would suffer. All Burgundian civilians. Yet, the world outrage is negligible. What I can promise, with much certainty, is two things. First, if there is not a diplomatic solution, a great disaster will befall both the region and this organization. Both will be looked upon with a level of nefariousness. Second, if a single missile lands in any Frankish city; the retaliation will be swift and massively disproportional. Given the severity of the weapons we face, you may imagine just how horrible it may be. I do not take any pride or sense of righteousness out of this. Rather, it is a warning that diplomatic efforts must prevail. It is our hope that peace may be achieved. If you recall, when the Empire moved to secure the Patois from the clutches of occupation and tyranny, we were the last to mobilize our military. We were the first to offer a true path to peace. We did so without malice. There are nations that wish to paint the Empire as a war hungry tyrant. We are anything but that. We are pleading for our neighbor to see the light and step away from the cold darkness. Remove your missile program. Remove your troops. Let us move forward"

 

[Imimoya]

Tao Shun, Ambassador of the Republic of Tianlong, acting EF representative.

"The Republic of Tianlong, after having listened to the interventions of the individual representatives, can only agree with the intervention of the representatives of San Jose. In compliance with the Treaty of Chagny, the armed forces must withdraw within a reasonable amount of time. Having said that, however, the forces stationed are required to have initiated an action of withdrawal, albeit gradual and slow. Failure to initiate the withdrawal operations would in itself constitute a violation of the treaty itself.

For the issue of the missile program, although there are no international laws against this type of weapon, Uicheon personally considers it a weapon suitable for the sole purpose of aggression, as its detaining capacity is almost nil. We personally abber the use of this type of weapon, but there is no legal basis for acting beyond a verbal condemnation."

 

[Tarusa]

Master Baron Boris Bakhmeteff, Tarusan Representative to EF

While we know that it is not illegal to research, procure, or even use such weapons in war, it is still unethical and a needed discussion when it is looked upon in conjunction with the actions that have unfolded since the Pannonian Crisis. We can hope that such a discussion will lead to a potential treaty being brought forth and signed within this organization against the proliferation, no, the manufacturing of weapons of destruction that serve no purpose other than that of turning cities into destitute lands once inhabited by people but to be left to the dead.

As for the other part of our complaint, reasonable will forever be able to be dragged out for however long the occupier wishes. I think you Cuesta of all people would be for the withdrawal of the foreign military forces, seeing as how your nation was one that pushed for the end of the European Forum mandates. There is no difference between those very mandates you called for an end of and the Bourdignie nation itself. While its governing body may be interim, it is still a governing body of the nation, and its peoples have spoken directly, in that direct democracy that San Jose gospelizes alongside the global exploitation conspiracy.

 

[Josepania]

Anayansi Quintanilla Cuesta, Representative of San José to the European Forum:

It seems as though Representative Bakhmeteff missed our urging of the Thüringäuers and Lethonians to complete their withdrawal of military forces with further haste, whether that oversight is intentional or not I cannot say.

Nonetheless, his effort to twist our ideology and principles into making us seem like hypocrites is laughable at best. We agree that the people must speak in free and fair elections in creating a new governing body of Bourdignie to replace that which was torn apart by Frankish aggression in attempting to tear away the Patois from this successor to Pannonia and further destabilizing an already unstable and chaotic region. That is why we have offered our services to the Thüringäuers and Lethonians to ensure these elections happen sooner, or did the Tarusan Representative miss that as well? If so, I wonder how much he actually pays attention to these discussions.

I urge the Honorable Representative Johansson to update us on a response to our offer, as it is this which can truly diffuse tensions here in the European Forum, despite the best efforts of the Franks and Tarusans to inflame them with accusations of genocidal intentions or broken promises.

I yield the floor.

 

[Holy Frankish Empire]

Gabriel Ponchardier, Baron of the Empire, Acting EF Representative

"I must say that the words my esteemed colleague from San Jose are deeply troubling. Not only did we liberate the Patois from occupation, but we allowed them self determination. In an overwhelming vote, the Patois chose their destiny. We did no tearing. You speak of free and fair elections, but discount the one offered to the Patois. It is clear to us that we have a clear division on what reality may be. Not only has our intelligence indicated a clear threat to civilians- on a genocidal scale, but nations remain skeptical or indifferent" he looked around the room, making eye contact before taking a slow sip of water.

"Will you remain so indifferent if millions of innocents die? Your leaders would, of course, publicly express regret. Yet they will ignore their indifference to a time when they had a chance to condemn such a program and honestly work to avoid such a travesty. Instead, we are the ones vilified out of concern for innocent human life. We have no qualms about weapons existing. We have no illusions as to their legality. Yet, many seem to ignore the picture that is plain. The true hypocrisy lies with those who would say they would do nothing if their people were under such a threat. Not only that, there are clear violations of the Chagny Treaty. These troops need to be withdrawn. We have come here not to derail the situation as the previous speaker stated. Think carefully about how many times we have truly engaged with the European Forum. Why would we derail these discussions. We are the ones who wish a solution. Yet, some would see our voice brushed aside out of their own meager ideological vanity"

 

[Josepania]

Anayansi Quintanilla Cuesta, Representative of San José to the European Forum:

Tell me, Representative Ponchardier, did you engage the European Forum with such vigor and sincerity as you do now, before your surprise invasion of what would be declared the Patois Republic? My predecessor, Representative and now Foreign Secretary Verdugo, has no record of such engagement, and none can be found in the archives of these halls. Or did you engage the Bourdignie, the Thüringäuers or Lethonians, in diplomatic negotiations before soldiers began marching across Imperial borders and presented Europe with a fait accompli? Such discussions have not come to light if so. It is this past lack of diplomacy then that makes the Empire's sudden devotion to and concern with diplomacy now cause for skepticism from certain nations of this body. Nevertheless. despite speculation otherwise, we do indeed recognize the Patois referendum as legitimate and have not disputed it. We simply do not forget the, at best, questionable international actions of the Empire leading up to the Patois decision to join the Empire.

The missile tests are troubling, none who are present dispute this, and all agree that legal boundaries must be erected by this body to assuage the concerns of Franks and others that reckless testing cannot continue, even the Scanians agree this is doable. What we have a concern with are these very serious accusations of the Thüringäuers and Lethonians planning some sort of genocidal preemptive strike upon the Empire. What is the proof Imperial intelligence is willing to share with this body that such intentions are indeed present? Perhaps that, more than anything else, can clear up any misunderstandings we may possess here today.

I yield the floor.

 

[Holy Frankish Empire]

Gabriel Ponchardier, Baron of the Empire, Acting EF Representative

"Indeed, we did not bring these concerns to the Forum and yes, were well criticized for it. Yet, now we do and we are still criticized. A classic game of "damned if you do, damned if you don't". We come here, asking for help. Yet all we have been met with is contempt. Is dialogue not what you wished nations to engage in? We are not the ones out to raise tensions. We are not the ones building this situation. We wished to move forward with our international partners, neighbors, and friends" he said, with a tremendous shrug. Despite his appearance and casual demeanor, Ponchardier was often bursting with energy. Now it came in rushes. "We are engaged in a dreadful situation. The peace brought on by the Chagny Treaty is in danger. The tensions are not being caused by us. Not at all. Who was the last to mobilize during the Patois situation? The Empire. Who hosted an amiable peace conference? The Empire. Who is here today, in all humility, asking for international help to secure peace? The Empire. And though you may roll your eyes, point your fingers and scoff and titter in muted tones; you know that we are here for peaceful purposes" he said, with an ironic smile. The smile disappeared quickly. "It occurs to me that there seems to be universal doubt. Doubt over the motivations for us speaking. Doubt over the Empire's concerns. Doubt over our claims. It seems plausible to me, that no matter what evidence we provide; the evidence itself will draw massive doubt. Yes, I will get permission to share as much evidence as possible. Yet. I question if the honorable representatives here will accept our evidence in the first place. It seems very much to me that there will be a continuation of this "damned if you do, damned if you don't" theme. If I must provide evidence for the Empire, I think it only fair that evidence be shown as to why troops have not been withdrawn. We are not the ones threatening peace. We ask that the treaty be observed and that our neighbors receive the warning they deserve. They are surely not alone with the types of weapons they have. But their brazen plans are without question, heinous"

 

[Josepania]

Anayansi Quintanilla Cuesta, Representative of San José to the European Forum:

You are correct there is, indeed, doubt around the intentions of the Empire, for the reasons I have previously outlined, and you have just conceded to.

Nonetheless, your willingness to seek permission to share what evidence you can, so that it may be judged on its merits rather than on accusations alone, is encouraging enough that I can second your request for evidence from the Scanians as to the reasons behind why the military forces of the Thüringäuers and Lethonians have not yet been withdrawn from Bourdignie. It is, even to San José, not encouraging that their current reasons are vague. If it is as they claim: logistics of setting up elections, then the Josefinos will be better equipped to aid them in their efforts and hasten their withdrawal, if that offer is also accepted by the Scanians.

I am confident that, through the mutual sharing of information, we can more rapidly defuse tensions and concentrate on crafting an international treaty on the testing of missiles and weapons of mass destruction, so that they do not cause an incident like this again.

I yield the floor.

 

[Jydsken-Østveg]

ON THE SUPPOSED LETHONIAN BREACHES OF SECURITY
Lena Johansson, EF Representative for the Scanlaw and Free Peoples of the North (SKÅNSKELAG)

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Lena had mostly sat silently. She didn't not have much to add to the debate and so she kept her mouth shut. It was a bit fascinating to see many delegations bicker as they had and of course every nation there had some kind of opinion. Unique to this situation was that it was more and more clear that the world had been indeed divided into camps or tribes of a sort. There was a clear sense of a similarity in agenda present between Tarusa and the Holy Frankish Empire, meanwhile the other nations seemed to have their own type of unity. It was more clear that the Scanlaw held a place that was more aligned with the other more clear democracies, but even still, Gothenhagen did not have a seat at any table of any formal organization. She did not have any information on whether or not that could happen someday, but it seemed unlikely considering the domestic turmoil.

There were quite a few suggestions in the discussion at hand here that started to bother her and she decided to intervene slightly to add clarification, «Ladies and Gentlemen, while it would be a travesty to no end to have any missile program and their payloads be exposed to general populace of a nation, I believe the standard definition of a genocide would be the targeted murder and elimination of a large group of people be they on grounds that are ethnic, religious, national, or racial. I have the liberty to confirm that the payloads prepared on the missile program are indiscriminate and not designed to necessarily to eliminate a particular group of people as much as they are designed to inflict as much possible damage to an aggressor. Without an aggressive party, I am told by President Leupolz that such weaponry should never need to be worried about».

She did not continue and explain the domestic complications at home. The last she knew, there would be a grand moot to figure out this crisis at home before the Scanlaw could come to the international table with any sort of cooperation or consensus.

 

[Rheinbund]

Richard Walsrode, EF representative from the Rheinbund

"Esteemed colleagues, I have the impression that, despite the discussions, there is already a consensus about the need for the Lethonians and Thüringäuer to withdraw from the Bourdignian Rump State. I also have the impression that there is consensus about the horribility of the missile systems of Lethonia and Thüringäu. But I'm afraid that this missile system will not be dismantled if we tell the Lethonians and Thüringäuer to do so while ignoring their arguments to build it. Furthermore, I have the impression that this missile system is a symptom of a more fundamental problem: Distrust. I'm afraid that the only way to peacefully end this conflict is to take the distrust of the Lethonians and the Thüringäuer towards Tarusa and the HFE away. And vice versa of course.
By the way, that will be a long-lasting process, so please be patient when you follow that path."

 

[Imimoya]

Tao Shun, Ambassador of the Republic of Tianlong, acting EF representative.

"It would be advisable to divide the two requests into two separate sessions, and not to constrain the success or failure of one towards the other. Only in this way could we create a constructive dialogue in mutual respect."

 

[Tarusa]

Master Baron Boris Bakhmeteff, Tarusan Representative to EF

"The two topics are of the same topic, while separate issues they are part of the larger issue at hand, the Lethonians. The Lethonians claim to Gothenhagen the weapons are defensive in nature to fend off aggression, but they make it clear that the weapons are designed with the intent of mass casualties of innocent lives. While we have not labeled its intent as genocidal as the Frankish have, it is quite clear that the weapons would be used in the event of a war to create massive civilian casualties on a scale never before seen.

The Lethonians need these weapons to defend themselves as they wish to hold the continent hostage as it had attempted to hold the rightful government of Pannonia hostage in its own civil war. With more of these weapons it could in turn make demands of the continent, or anywhere in the world, to do as it pleases. It would allow the Lethonians to act with impunity, without fear, in carrying out its illegal actions now and in the future. If this body cannot come to any form of agreement, we will be potentially forced to act unilaterally before time runs out and it becomes too late."