Havershaw Accords

[Clarenthia]

"The SEDN should have the power to monitor airspace around the memberstates and work in unison with nations' intelligence agencies or crime fighting agencies, and have a conttinous communication with air forces across the nation states.

It should not, under any circumstances, be given control over any nation's armed forces. If it does get this power, it is unconstitutional by Jurzani standards."

 

[Cakistan]

Nasir sighed audibly. "How do you expect the alliance to operate without some shared military control? If we all act independently in a conflict situation we will dramatically increase the danger to our troops from friendly fire, not to mention the increase risk from the enemy if we act in an uncoordinated manner. The United Emirates will not allow its troops to be deployed in such an unsafe and unprofessional manner"

"Frankly I am quite confused by your position given the text of the treaty you signed. It directly calls for a Southern European Defense Force made from the militaries of the member states. Allow me to quote 'The SEDN controls the affairs of the Southern Europe Defence Forces. They are responsible for deploying them on strategic missions as well as response to incidents in the member states.' Now if I understand you correctly you are backing out of the commitment you made when you signed the treaty. Is this correct?"

"It is the position of the United Emirates that a SEDF Rapid Reaction Force should be formed consisting of at least two divisions (OOC: 30,000) strength. The United Emirates is willing to contribute a full division (OOC: 15,000) of that. The forces under the Rapid Reaction Force would be based together, train together, and would act as the principle force for the SEEDTO. Cakistan is also willing to provide the base for the RRF. If needed greater forces could be created on a ad-hoc basis. All RRF forces would remain a part of their national militaries and remain under their national chains of command. They would also report to the RRF commander who would be appointed by the Southern European Council. We also believe that deployment of the RRF should be done on a consensus basis so any full member nation could in effect veto any RRF mission."

 

[Sheridan]

"I agree with almost everything Mr. Nasir has just said. However, since the United Emirates is not centrally located, it would not act as an effective base of operations for any rapid response force. Ascalon will be more than happy to use Michael's Military Base as the RRFs and the SEDFs main base of peace time operations. Michael's Military base is near the capital and is centrally located in Ascalon."

 

[Fulanistan]

"We also agree with the statements made by Mr. Nasir. It is important for us to have a central military force comprised of the armed forces of each country. However, the independence of the individual armies will not be compromised. Rather, it is the collective forces that form the SEDF, but individually they are still the forces of each independent country."

 

[Clarenthia]

"Mr. Nasir, you take my comments incorrectly. I am not saying that there should be no cooperation between our nations' militaries. I am stating that I am uncomfortable, and as far as my country's constitution states, an organized practically separate military for SEDN is unconstitutional. I do not speak for my country's legislature, but they are determined to work within the parameters that they themselves defined.

The SEDN should work as a middle man between the militaries of all our nations. They should only be able to deploy troops with the consent - or approval - of the nation of origin. I do not believe that they should have control over their own little army. There should also be no commanding general but a council of military officials from each nation.

SEEDTO shouldn't be working to build a military. It should be working to help build Himyar in unison with the other Himyari Nations. When we sit here and discuss the construction of an army, the rest of the world takes it as SEEDTO is gathering strength to run Himyar the way we want to run Himyar."

 

[Kugelan Free State]

De Kalk listened to the conversation bat like a game of tennis between his allies. This was good, Conversation and discussion would help the Alliance move forward. the debate seemed to be hinged on the formation of an army for the SEEDTO, De Kalk saw both arguments and saw a clear way through the center of the debate.

It is clear that some of us do not wish to commit soldiers to a foreign defense force. And although we understand and indeed share these sentiments, I think its also a good idea to adapt to the rapidly changing world around us.

I would propose that each Nation contribute what we later to deem an acceptable force under the command of an appointed General/Commander whom will work under a supreme allied commander appointed by the defense ministries of all SEEDTO Nations, but each national Commander will have a right of Veto over his own troops as to wether or not they fight in a specific conflict but not over the strategy of the war in general.
If we have national armies with no cohesion it will lead to misunderstandings and squables.​

 

[Sheridan]

"Mr. De Kalk has re-stated what I have been trying to say all along. If we do not have a uniformic army with at least some level of shared command, than there is no way we will be able to successfully defend ourselves. And this proposed General of the SEDF would not be able to make any actions without all of our militaries consent."

 

[Sheridan]

"I advise that for now we leave the subject of military unity alone, because clearly it will take months before we come to any sort of agreement on that. Let us now discuss the possibilities of economic unity." Ms. Abdallah said, trying to get the accords out of the stalemate they had entered.

 

[Kugelan Free State]

"It would ideed be a great shame if this alliance fell at the first hurdle, Although like My dear Colleague from Ascalon I am keen to move on from this, I would like to know how the initial alliance agreement was interpreted in Jurzan and what they would propose as a credible alternative to the Millitary question​

De kalk felt the talks were in trouble. If SEEDTO was going to collapse over the issue of defending each other he would lose a great deal of political credit in the Volksraad. He hoped this would not be the case

 

[Sheridan]

"I would like to inform the Jurzani ambassador that Jurzan is the only member-state who does not agree with the idea of at least some level of military unity. Even the treaty, which Jurzan signed, states that there will be at least some level of cooperation."

 

[Cakistan]

Minister Nasir noded gravely, "I agree with the statements of my honorable friends from Kugelan and Ascalon. I must admit this issue is deeply troubling both to myself and the government of the Emirates....."

 

[Sheridan]

"The rest of us are willing to contribute troops to the SEDF. If Jurzan is not let us just move on. Ascalon will still contribute 2 Divisions to the SEDN. The 4th Division Airborne will be assigned to the Ascaloni/Cakistan Rapid Response Force. The 5th Division Task Force will be assigned to the SEDF. Now can we please move on from this topic and begin discussing economic unity? I have a couple of interesting points and ideas I have been instructed to bring before you all." Ms. Abdallah said, growing more impatient by the minute.

 

[Cakistan]

Minister Nasir nodded, "Please, by all means begin."

 

[Sheridan]

"We wish to ask the delegates here at present if they believe that their governments would agree to even further economic unity. We are suggesting that we all come up with a shared currency. However nations would be able to print their own national symbols on the currency in order to keep cultural identity. We also believe that instead of merely encouraging the free movement of workers between member states, it should be made mandatory. However we do wish to make it clear that border checkpoints would still be allowed. This would allow police forces to stop smuggling attempts."

 

[Cakistan]

"Unfortunately the United Emirates cannot consent to a common currency at this time. Due to the significant differences in the development between the nations of the alliance we do not believe that a common central bank is in the interest of all members. The Independence of the Cakistani Central Bank is considered strategically vital to the United Emirates."

"The United Emirates will however support the creation a of a full Free Trade Area among the SEEDTO nations. Further we fully approve of the ideas suggested by Ms. Abdallah regarding the free movement of workers."

 

[Sheridan]

"I understand were you are coming from regarding the shared currency idea. Since the plan would only really work if we all used it, it is now fairly useless. And we are interested in hearing more about this Free Trade Area the Cakistan delegation has mentioned. Would you care to elaborate Mr. Nasir?"

 

[Clarenthia]

Nadarejshvili was satisfied. "My country has no problem with freedom of movement between our countries."

 

[Sheridan]

"Another idea that we could work on is some exchange programs in our countries. In Ascalon students are taught Italian, Spanish, Hebrew, and Arabic so for us it would be easy. It could help our mostly Catholic population learn more about the Islamic Republics within the alliance."

 

[Clarenthia]

"I do not feel it is exactly safe for young adults to be visiting our country at the present time."

 

[Sheridan]

"Well Jurzan is obviously an expcetion to this." Then Ms. Abdallah's phone began to vibrate. She looked at it and noticed she had recieved a text message from the Foreign Minister.

"It appears that Ascalon will be sending 50 million dollars in aid to Jurzan. I hope that the other members of the SEEDTO will donate aid as well."