Justiza, the revenant

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  1. Justiza.

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    Respublica Justina
    Justinian Republic

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    Population: 334.938
    Form of government: Parliamentary Republic
    Head of Sate: President Giancarlo Compagno
    Head of Government: Primo Piergiorgio Botta
    Capital city: Furzillo
    Currency: Cunea
    Official language: Retalian, Justino-Retalian
    Other languages: Pelasgian, Kadiki
    Religion: Tiburan Catholic

    After the Hamar Sea crisis the Justinian economy was shattered, some lost their enterprises, others moved to Eiffelland-Retalia and Pelasgia, the resolution of the crisis left the proud island weakened and in internal political turmoil, during the early 60s a wave of assaults at politicians and foreign-fuelled small scale terrorist attacks heated the internal debate, the new political factions emerging pointed the fingers at their respective rivals.

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    The Kadikistan-aligned JCWP blamed the Christian-Democrats as both insane enemies of the country and corrupted for Pelasgian imperialistic desires, while the Christian-Democrats, a reformed party grouping together the remaining old times politicians, blamed the JCWP of being a kadikistani puppet trying to overthrow the constitution and the island's independence.

    The internal fights slowed and eventually ended after a deadly car bomb attack at the national hero Giuliana Margheri, her death reunited the citizens and helped healing the internal political debate.

    During the 80s a few Justinian companies that previously left the island came back, notably the historic Ciricco coffee and the three wheeled vehicle producer Pestitia. Although still in recession, by 1997 the economy was starting to recover. by the 2010s, however, it was clear that an economic upturn was still very far away, mainly because of the rising levels of corruption and organised crime plaguing the island nation.

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    Although less aggressively, Justiza is today still a geopolitical battleground between the Pelasgian and northern himyari sphere of influence, Kadikistan, and a growing anarchic sentiment fuelled by the eastern Anti-State and in part by the organised crime, rallying around the Post-Delegationist group "Libertade Justina", which doesn't participate in elections and has the dissolution of the Justinian government as its final goal.

    @Pelasgia Azraq">@Azraq @Kadikistani Union @Touzen
    This is just a first draft of what I think could work, please do give me some opinions and let me know if you want to be more (or less) involved in some way, Justiza should be a fun meeting point in my opinion, I'm here just to keep it working and have its own breathing culture and people.
    In particular @Touzen it's no secret I'm no big fan of PD, yet, I think in this particular situation something interesting could work out, so if you let me use the anathema word "anarchism", at least as a starting point and then we can see where this brings us, it could be quite a revolution
     
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    It seems very good and building on your current IC history so far. Are you still interested in the ancient common history we had developed in OG Justiza? Also, I feel there'd be a lot of economic activity going on between us.
     
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    you mean that Justiza was colonized by the Tiburan empire and then was part of Pelasgia for a while? sure, I don't remember if we went in further detail, but that is still the founding story.

    indeed, at least that was the situation before I left, I assume trade was intensified with kadikistan too.

    there is one thing I need to settle also: in the past Pelasgia had a naval base on the island, what has happened to it? is it still there on the west coast? is it gone? is there a @Kadikistani Union one aswell?
     
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    Alright sounds good. Honestly I can't recall if we did

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    Sounds good. I'd be down to have some trade talks to kick off large-scale Pelasgian investment (and I assume Kadikistan would do the same).

    [QUOTEthere is one thing I need to settle also: in the past Pelasgia had a naval base on the island, what has happened to it? is it still there on the west coast? is it gone? is there a @Kadikistani Union one aswell?[/QUOTE]
    I clearly recall it being used in the RP with SWR so yes, it must have been there. Pelasgia signed on to the SQT, but from what I remember that didn't remove the base. Unless I'm confusing this base with the one on Tephanon and the temporary staging area in Eiffelland's southern islands. I don't think Kadikistan had one, but if I got one we could RP that he also got one for SQT's sake, perhaps? (Or if I didn't get one after all, then nobody got one, obviously).
     
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    I remember you wrote a story about the naval base too, can't remember exactly, it was some high ranking official of the navy coming there to take command, can't remember if he had some issues back home so he was sent there.
    anyway, we should find a common position with spelev so the starting point is an actual situation of equilibrium, the status quo treaty.
     
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    I also remember something about a naval base, but something tells me this was the cause of some Xth Justinian crisis. If not it seems like very bad negotiating on my part. If we follow the SQT that would mean what one has the other has too, but I distinctly remember Justiza being too proud to donate even a square cm to Kadikistan. We would do a split spheres of influences type deal, wholly within the frame of the SQT.
     
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    Sure, I’d just ask you to please do no evil Joker types blowing up civilians because evil (not saying you would, of course), we had that in the past with Communists and it was also not that fun.
     
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    I've grown to learn that evil does not exist, also, I'm thinking this anarchic movement would be popular due to the failure of the Justinian government geopolitically and economically, no terrorists. of course the organized crime got involved because... well.. no rules, no police, that's why

    I think I got it

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    I'm not sure how is it possible that "Data di creazione - creation date" is later than "Ultima modifica - last modified", but here we have it.

    in my opinion we should both forget about it, or have the Pelagians leave, since the island now will be something like 1/4 of its original size, having two foreign military bases would be at least peculiar
     
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    Indeed, for a long time people used the Marxist-Leninovists as their go-to ideology if they needed some bad guys. I rolled with it at first, the forum needed an enema at the time, but yea its kinda forced upon you and not that great. Especially if they end up blowing up markets and busy places simply for the sake of evil.

    Agreed
     
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    Generally a right leaning nation?
     
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    Yep, @Justiza. you're right. That was Attalos Laskaris taking over command of a fleet staging a coup with it to overthrow the Komnenian Dynasty and replace it with the Laskarids. The base's establishment was also the cause of one of our crises, like @Kadikistani Union said. So, based on what we have so far, I would have the base and we would also have a spheres of influence agreement with Spelev? Maybe Pelasgia could have given some concessions in Gallia or within Pelasgia to the DKKP to compensate? (I think the legalisation of the DKKP was the actual concession).
     
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    Would probably make some sense if there was some Arab / Azraqi / Islamic influence on Justiza given our relative proximity. I'm still figuring out an expanded Azraq looks like in my head so my history is fluid and undefined at the moment but happy to be involved however.

    I wasn't present as Azraq during the crisis but I suggest we keep as that as canon for obvious reasons and think away why Azraq was effectively a non-actor. It the crisis was in the 1950s could have been when the Empire was grappling with internal unrest and subsequently the Islamofuturist coup.
     
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    So maybe have Justizia based on Malta?
     
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    Yes I suppose that's what I was getting it. There will also be a certain deliciousness about our Malta having strong Somali influence.
     
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    Alright by me, I was already taking example from Malta anyway, I'll go forward on that road
     
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    Same here, no objections. The more the merrier!

    Depending on the power and regional projection you had in mind for yourself during the 1950s we could even add you as a third signatory state of the SQT. After all when we kicked off it was originally between Kadikistan, Varanasi and Rashan. Pelasgia graciously took up the role after the latter two disappeared, but three signatory members wouldn't dishonour the legacy. Food for thought
     
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    Seconded.
     

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