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@Zlatan I encourage you to read threads around our forum of how other players negotiate or do meetings in writing or in character.

This is a thread with many nations involved, not just two, but it sort of shows how different people construct a meet:

In other words: you write or role-play a setting, characters of the nation, and set an agenda to be discussed with the other player and their nation. If this is beyond your understanding we are done.
 

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@Nieveland NIS has calculated that the cost of the factories might be around 69,1 million$ the only thing left is the location and the cost of the locations, what will it cost and where will it be? NIS pays 100%
 

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@Nieveland ! NIS Foreign relations minister JENNY J. SMITH (NKP) and Foreign Trade Minister ANGELICKA SVENSSON (NLK) will represent NIS at the meeting. WE WANT TO NEGOTIATE WITH @Nieveland . WE WANT TO BUILD 3 FACTORIES FOR ICAR MOTORS, NORDIE ELEC. AND GLASIC. CARS,ELECTRONICS AND GLASS IS GOING TO BE MANUFACTURED AND THE TOTAL COST OF BUILDING WILL AROUND 60-69.1 MILLION$. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT PAYING 25-30% OF THE BUILDING COST OR LOWERING THE TAX IN HALF FOR THE FIRST 3 YEARS IF NIS PAYS 100% OF THE COST TO BUILD WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE OFFER. THIS WILL BE A GOOD WIN FOR BOTH COUNTRIES AND TRADING IS ALWAYS GOOD TO IMPROVE THE RELATION OF THE COUNTRIES BUT THE TRADE AGREEMENT IS WHAT WE WILL START WITH AND SEE IF IT WORKS OUT. NORDIE CEO HAENS SVAENSSEN: WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD CHANCE TO SELL OUR INOVATIVE PRODUCTS TO EVEN MORE PEOPLE. ICAR CEO ARNE BROBERG: AN NEW EFFICENT FACTORY TO MAKE OUR RELIABILE CARS. GLASIC CEO Nivi Johansen: MORE DURABLE GLASS BEING PRODUCED AND MORE RECYCLING CAPACITY. EVERYTHING RECYCLEBLE WILL BE RECYCLED AND THE FACTORIES WILL HAVE A POWERFUL FAN TO DRAG IN THE Co2 AND FILTER THE CARBON AND THE AIR AND THE AIR WILL GO OUT AND THE CARBON WILL BE USED TO MAKE PLASTIC,RUBBER ETC. HOW HIGH IS THE TAX% IN @Nieveland? and what is your opinion on this agreement proposition?
 

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the Foreign Ministry of the Thaumantic Order of Three Communal States
has drafted the following counter-proposal
with Special Input from the Communal Republic of Engwahl

The Communal Republic of Engwahl, the Thaumantic Order's central and economically diverse state, can agree to the following terms:
  • Foreign interlopers can bear the cost of building these factories in whole
  • No tax shall be levied against these foreign entities so long as they remain in designated economic zone
  • Completed manufactured products that leave the Republic belong in no part to the communal body or wealth
  • All workers will be of Thaumantic stock after 6 months of permitted training time, foreign management is permitted
  • Communal labor laws and property laws apply to the workforce, factories, and raw production materials
 

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the Foreign Ministry of the Thaumantic Order of Three Communal States
has drafted the following counter-proposal
with Special Input from the Communal Republic of Engwahl

The Communal Republic of Engwahl, the Thaumantic Order's central and economically diverse state, can agree to the following terms:
  • Foreign interlopers can bear the cost of building these factories in whole
  • No tax shall be levied against these foreign entities so long as they remain in designated economic zone
  • Completed manufactured products that leave the Republic belong in no part to the communal body or wealth
  • All workers will be of Thaumantic stock after 6 months of permitted training time, foreign management is permitted
  • Communal labor laws and property laws apply to the workforce, factories, and raw production materials
Foreign Trade Minister ANGELICKA SVENSSON (NLK) : ok deal! where will the factories be?
 

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NIS Foreign relations minister JENNY J. SMITH (NKP) and Foreign Trade Minister ANGELICKA SVENSSON (NLK): we are officialy starting to build the factories in an econimic zone near egnhwahl in @Thaumantica 3 factories over
an area of 1,7km2 and a total of 7 426 workers and it will be finished by early 2024 maybe late 2023 runnig on just under 100%--99% clean energy and they will be the cleanest foreign factories in @Thaumantica and the cleanest even if counting native factories.
yes thats correct, even the native factories cant compete,50% of the recycled and 30% upycled products will be given to @Thaumantica if they want.
 

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NIS Foreign relations minister JENNY J. SMITH (NKP) and Foreign Trade Minister ANGELICKA SVENSSON (NLK) and prime minister KARL JAN ANDERS (NKP): THANKS FOR LETTING US BUILD THE FACTORIES IN @Thaumantica
 

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TO: NIS Foreign Relations Minister JENNY J. SMITH
Subject: Coal-Labour Trade Summit Invitation

Dear Minister Jenny J. Smith,

The Foreign Affairs Cabinet (F.A.C.) wishes to inform your excellency, and your government. That North Istavania has been invited to a trade summit located in Valeria, a city in the Angliarique Empire.
This summit will focus on increasing Angliarique’s imports of a scarce resource, coal. My chancellor recently announced that my nation’s coal reserves have been damaged. Thus, we find in North Istavania, a suitable trade partner, to stabilise our coal ordeal.
Plenipotentiaries may attend the summit.


Reply at your pleasure
Kind regards,
Lady Pembroke, Governor of the Exterior
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Angliarique Foreign Affairs Cabinet
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TO: NIS Foreign Relations Minister JENNY J. SMITH
Subject: Coal-Labour Trade Summit Invitation

Dear Minister Jenny J. Smith,

The Foreign Affairs Cabinet (F.A.C.) wishes to inform your excellency, and your government. That North Istavania has been invited to a trade summit located in Valeria, a city in the Angliarique Empire.
This summit will focus on increasing Angliarique’s imports of a scarce resource, coal. My chancellor recently announced that my nation’s coal reserves have been damaged. Thus, we find in North Istavania, a suitable trade partner, to stabilise our coal ordeal.
Plenipotentiaries may attend the summit.


Reply at your pleasure
Kind regards,
Lady Pembroke, Governor of the Interior
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Dear LADY PEMBROKE,
I would like to express my sincere appreciation for the invitation extended to me to attend the upcoming trade summit in Valeria. The opportunity to engage in discussions on enhancing trade relations between our nations is both valuable and promising.
As the Foreign Minister of North Istavania, I understand the significance of fostering strong economic ties and promoting trade partnerships. However, due to the overlapping schedule with the Peace and Security Summit in Valls, our delegation is currently fully committed to participating in the Valls summit, which carries immense importance for our nation.
The Valls summit focuses on critical issues related to peace, security, and conflict prevention, and it demands our undivided attention and active engagement. Considering the pressing nature of these discussions, our limited availability prevents us from participating in the trade summit in Valeria at this time.
Nonetheless, I want to assure you that North Istavania remains committed to expanding our economic relationships and exploring avenues for trade cooperation. We value the potential for mutually beneficial partnerships and recognize the importance of fostering robust trade networks after the end of the valls summit.
While our immediate commitments prevent our attendance, I would be grateful if we could explore the possibility of arranging a future meeting or event dedicated specifically to trade discussions between our nations. This would allow us to delve into the intricacies of our respective economies, identify areas of synergy, and explore trade opportunities in more detail.
I firmly believe that such an engagement would be highly beneficial in strengthening our bilateral trade relations and creating a solid foundation for future cooperation.
Once again, I extend my gratitude for the invitation to the trade summit in Valeria. Although our current schedule does not permit our attendance, I hope we can find an alternative opportunity to engage in meaningful trade discussions ater the end of the valls summit
Thank you for your understanding, and I look forward to the possibility of further collaboration.
Warm regards,
Jenny J. Smith Foreign Minister North Istavania
 

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Dear LADY PEMBROKE,
I would like to express my sincere appreciation for the invitation extended to me to attend the upcoming trade summit in Valeria. The opportunity to engage in discussions on enhancing trade relations between our nations is both valuable and promising.
As the Foreign Minister of North Istavania, I understand the significance of fostering strong economic ties and promoting trade partnerships. However, due to the overlapping schedule with the Peace and Security Summit in Valls, our delegation is currently fully committed to participating in the Valls summit, which carries immense importance for our nation.
The Valls summit focuses on critical issues related to peace, security, and conflict prevention, and it demands our undivided attention and active engagement. Considering the pressing nature of these discussions, our limited availability prevents us from participating in the trade summit in Valeria at this time.
Nonetheless, I want to assure you that North Istavania remains committed to expanding our economic relationships and exploring avenues for trade cooperation. We value the potential for mutually beneficial partnerships and recognize the importance of fostering robust trade networks after the end of the valls summit.
While our immediate commitments prevent our attendance, I would be grateful if we could explore the possibility of arranging a future meeting or event dedicated specifically to trade discussions between our nations. This would allow us to delve into the intricacies of our respective economies, identify areas of synergy, and explore trade opportunities in more detail.
I firmly believe that such an engagement would be highly beneficial in strengthening our bilateral trade relations and creating a solid foundation for future cooperation.
Once again, I extend my gratitude for the invitation to the trade summit in Valeria. Although our current schedule does not permit our attendance, I hope we can find an alternative opportunity to engage in meaningful trade discussions ater the end of the valls summit
Thank you for your understanding, and I look forward to the possibility of further collaboration.
Warm regards,
Jenny J. Smith Foreign Minister North Istavania
Angliarique Foreign Affairs Cabinet
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Dear Minister Jenny J. Smith,

The Foreign Affairs Cabinet seeing your government's commitment to peace, respects your government's decision. And attitude towards the expansion of our nations' economic relations. We appreciate your message. And wish your nation good luck in the Valls summit.

Well wishes,
Lady Pembroke, Governor of the Exterior


 

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We understand that @Angliarique needs coal, NIS will obviusly sell coal, but we thought of something better, what if we sell coal but also sign a trade partnership? like building factories, ICAR factories for cars, some of the cleanest factories in existence as 100% of the co2 is dperated from the smoke and turned in to a carbonate soulution and used to make platic, rubber etc. so the factories will be good for the climate, and as Angliarique needs the coal, NIS is trying to move away from using coal, so we will sell coal and make money while helping the country of Angliarique to combat the shortage of coal, our offer is that for 15% discouted price of the coal, will be only 9,7 billion EM worth of coal will be sold every year to Angliarique. so the coal part is agreed, DONE! but we wonder what you think about this offer: We build one 99.69% renewable energy run climate friendly car factory the total are of 0.95km2 and if NIS pays 100% of the 10,3 billion EM cost of building the factory and give Angliarique a 15% discount on all products, the ICAR factory can pay 75% lower tax for 3 years?
we also wnat to make it clear that while the coal trading will take place instantly from now, the factory is just a posibillity and we would love to know under what conditions you would accept? tell us your terms and conditions on trading with NIS.

from: Foreign Trade Minister ANGELICKA SVENSSON (NLK) & ICAR CEO ARNE BROBERG

to: Lady Pembroke
 

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TO: ANGELICKA SVENSSON, Foreign Trade Minister @North Istavania
SUBJECT: Angliarique-NIS Trade

Your excellency. The Angliarique Permanent Government is grateful for your trade offer. However, we wish to negotiate the terms of the coal deal and the trade deal.

My government believes that it would be better if a more coherent deal is made:

Angliarique gets a one-time shipment of 27,000 metric tonnes of raw coal.
And all NIS businesses incorporated in NIS, but located in Darkford get taxed at a special corporate rate of 0.075% on all profits for 10 years. And if NIS wishes to, the Angliarique government will allocate 20,000 Spascirian factory labourers at cost of 500 Dahls per worker, annually.

FROM: Lady Pembroke, F.A.C. Governor
 

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TO: ANGELICKA SVENSSON, Foreign Trade Minister @North Istavania
SUBJECT: Angliarique-NIS Trade

Your excellency. The Angliarique Permanent Government is grateful for your trade offer. However, we wish to negotiate the terms of the coal deal and the trade deal.

My government believes that it would be better if a more coherent deal is made:

Angliarique gets a one-time shipment of 27,000 metric tonnes of raw coal.
And all NIS businesses incorporated in NIS, but located in Darkford get taxed at a special corporate rate of 0.075% on all profits for 10 years. And if NIS wishes to, the Angliarique government will allocate 20,000 Spascirian factory labourers at cost of 500 Dahls per worker, annually.

FROM: Lady Pembroke, F.A.C. Governor
what is 500 Dhals in EM? (EM is this forums equivilent of the € euro) 20 000 workes is a lot for one factory, however if 3 factories can be built on a total area of 2,1km2, ICAR can employ 7 300 factory workers and enginners, NORDIE ELEC. can employ 4 700 to build electronic devices and Metaliar can employ 3 500 workers for factories turning raw coal and metal into products, still under the same conditions as Angliarique wants. So 20 000 is for 1 single factory, but 15 000-20 000 for 3 factories would perfect, and NO extra harm for the climate as everything will be filtred and recycling will always be important, 15 000 workers for 3 factories, if this is accepted by Angliarique, NIS will start construction and NIS will pay for the 7.2 billion EM construction fee and construction will be finished by the end of the year, also, it will be chaper for @Angliarique to buy istavanian products if they are made in Aniarique.



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CEO METALIAR ERKKI LAITINEN

ICAR CEO ARNE BROBERG

NORDIE CEO HAENS SVAENSSEN
 

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after reciving green light from @Angliarique , the construction of 3 factories on a total area of 2,1 sq.km will start today and the factories will begin producing at the end of the year, 7,2 billion EM is the cost to build and 15 million EM every year on the total wages for 15 000 workers. the wages will be raised if everything goes to plan. The tax paid will be 00.75%(233 million EM) of the 31 billion EM expected to be earned over 10 years so the the companies will in total earn 30,7 billion EM, and after the tax to the North istavanian goverment, the companies will end up with 23,69 billion EM and the North Istavanian goverment will end up with 7 billion EM, thats only an estimate. 27 000 metric tons of coal will be sold to Aglirique for 15% discount, that means its 3,2 billion EM instead of 3,8 billion EM.



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CEO METALIAR ERKKI LAITINEN

ICAR CEO ARNE BROBERG

NORDIE CEO HAENS SVAENSSEN
 

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To: ANGELICKA SVENSSON, Foreign Trade Minister
Subject: Angliarique-NIS Trade Approval

Your excellency.

The Angliarique Permanent Government approves in practice, the terms of trade that have been negotiated between us. In speaking for my government, I hope for the continuance of the economic friendship and diplomatic cooperation that I have since witnessed as a result of the negotiations. And with certain gratitude, am thankful for the successful trade of coal between our two countries.

From: Lady Pembroke, F.A.C. Governor
 
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