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Jydsken-Østveg

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And that is fully my fault. Ugh...
Side note: It’s best to post map requests in public for the sake of transparency. (In fact there was once a rule, I dunno if it still exists? Where if it wasn’t posted in the public thread, it wouldn’t happen at all.) It also allows for the player base to raise questions, concerns, or comments if there are any conflicts of interest or oddities that aren’t understood. On top of that, it would prevent misunderstandings like such.
 

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Side note: It’s best to post map requests in public for the sake of transparency. (In fact there was once a rule, I dunno if it still exists? Where if it wasn’t posted in the public thread, it wouldn’t happen at all.) It also allows for the player base to raise questions, concerns, or comments if there are any conflicts of interest or oddities that aren’t understood. On top of that, it would prevent misunderstandings like such.

"Thank you again for getting me on the map. Can you please add my 5 major cities?



Whichever one works.

1. Avalon
2. Barceltia
3. Ceretia
4. Vermeillia
5. Cortoba"
 

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Side note: It’s best to post map requests in public for the sake of transparency. (In fact there was once a rule, I dunno if it still exists? Where if it wasn’t posted in the public thread, it wouldn’t happen at all.) It also allows for the player base to raise questions, concerns, or comments if there are any conflicts of interest or oddities that aren’t understood. On top of that, it would prevent misunderstandings like such.

You're right. Thanks.
 

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Location :- Except ignore New South Caithland and Kayahtah, just fold them into Seodae if you would, as one colonial 'nation'. I just was musing and thought it'd be cool. Also ignore the Amberly Islands bit. I had what I thought was a cool idea for them but changed my mind by the time I finished reading this, better to let someone else take those islands, as they are more likely to generate RP, especially with Natalia. Maybe one of the Occidentials wants a himyari puppet country/banana republic off the coast of Justosia nd Natalia?
Name of Colony :- Seodae
Name of Colonial Capital :- Saeloun Jabon Se-Gang 새로운 자본 세 강 (Official name), 'Segang' (Colloquial) | Location doesn't matter so long as it is a little inland. Plan to have a trio of navigable rivers be the source of its name.
Name of Primary Country :- Warre
Established History :- Initially established as a colony for the Eternal Empire of Touyou (one of many in the far southern or 'Echnida' region of Himyar), Seodae and the rest of the region which could be called 'Kayahtah' in the modern era, was discovered during the Great Voyages of the Eunuch Admiral Se Hi Jyang* and for nearly three hundred years was a small scale location focus where Seorans could be quietly deported from Seora, and where native Echnidans could be captured and sent to the markets of Azraq or the Eternal Empire itself as slaves.

Not the whole world knew of the actions of the serene mandate of the east however, and it happened that the islands were known about by several groups of Gallo-Germanians and Western Himyari powers. Warre and Auraria were among the first to have 'discovered' them, and they split the islands amongst themselves. The islands which would become 'Justosia' being the territory that Auraria claimed for itself, and the rest of the islands claimed by the Warreic Empire.

Auraria could focus more on their colonial project than Warre could, and Warreic styles of colonization were different, more merchantile than simply settler focused, and soon trade began between the Warreic and the various Eternal Empire colonies in the region, but especially Seodae. Trade which soon became so strong that when the Eternal Empire fell, Warre immediately offered Seodae a defensive alliance and assistance treaty which effectively made Seodae a protectorate. In time, it's become closer to a 'colony' of Warre, but neither call it such and if confronted over the closeness of their relations, it would be easy to explain. Warre and Seodae are good friends, trade a good deal, and Warre protects Seodae (and the other countries and colonies in the region) from Justosian aggression.

It should be noted that Seodaen nationalism is strongly focused on 'Pan-Seoranism' and while immigration is highly restricted to many people (outside of ethnic Seorans only Warreics, Occidentials, Aurians, Ivernish, Caledonians, Engells, and Azraqis may gain citizenship, and knowledge and fluency of Hanguk-eo is a mandatory requirement), it goes out of its way to take immigrants and refugees of the Seoran bent, and considers itself to be 'the new Seoran homeland', or as it has had joked in some late night comedy shows, 'West Seora'.

(*a Seoran by birth but celestial bureaucrat of the Eternal Empire)

For the record, I'm asking for this move of Seodae for 3 reasons. 1) I think it's a far more compelling story/nation now. 2) Xen doesn't want any 'colonies', 'allied states', 'puppet states', etc in Touyou. 3) Norse and Ovi want more neighbors/action in eastern Himyar, and it makes sense with the back story for it to exist.

While I'm at it requesting, if I could get these islands: affixed to Siu Wui as 'Haitun' the other half of the colonial/sovereign territory that Siu Wui is, I'd appreciate it. Makes it less isolated and when we do finally get someone there it makes me neighbor them, as well as it makes Siu Wui and Azraq actually maritime/naval neighbors at least.
 
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@Engellex , you did an amazing job with these four maps. Thank you! You deserve some roles of stroopwafels, but I don't know where to send them to.

One small question. Two maps ago, Northern Eiffelland was on approximately the 50th altitude and Bremen on approximately the 42nd altitude. Currently it is approximately the 40th altitude for Northern Eiffelland and approximately the 28th altitude for Bremen. Would it be possible to change the altitude lines, so that the equator is at a lower place on the map and Northern Eiffelland is at the 50th meridian again? Or would that disrupt RPing ideas of others?
 

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Considering that no one kills you if you don't care what your country's climate is like, especially when there is like such a minor change between a Mediterranean Climate and Central European one. I mean, while I like Natalia to have that equatorial jungle climate in the south and a Sahel-like climate in the north and the interior, just look a bit south of me, Justosia still is around a subtropical climate, but he always says that his temperatures are always around 15 degrees, even if that would be pretty much impossible.

But to return to the map thing. @Engellex , can you move Loago to be on the eastern coast of Himyar, south of Azraq, north of ETCOS and east of Port Stanley? After I spoke with Norse we decided to have both of them closer together.
 

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Can the Undetermined Sea be renamed to the Hamar Sea / Ocean? By popular agreement.

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If you want to add interesting RP bits to the map, you could feel free to add a marker for the memorial to the Lord & Lady Peace Estate on one of the northern most islands of Dronning Ragnhild Land. I’d imagine it being a little ‘x’ saying “Lord & Lady Peace Estate Obelisk.” Would be cool to have odd RP things on the map I think. But that’s totally up to you as the mapmaker if you wanted to add such things, and you as the mapmaker to approve which ones to add if so. Anyhow, a suggestion to put in the bank.
 

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One thing I wish I could add, rivers. Completely worth the time, but I do not have illustrator, and I'm not convinced on drawing rivers with photoshop.
I know what you mean, I remember trying to do that and it never quite looked as nice as I hoped it would back in the day...
 

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I'm not opposed to adding IC landmarks, if they are important enough, they will be a great addition actually. Just keep clutter in mind when considering them. I wish there was more on the map, for example every country and territory having its capital placed.
 

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Hate to be annoying but on second thought could I have the large island off the coast of southern Toyou back but have the larger islands in the Pillars of Nearchus sunk?

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Considering that no one kills you if you don't care what your country's climate is like, especially when there is like such a minor change between a Mediterranean Climate and Central European one. I mean, while I like Natalia to have that equatorial jungle climate in the south and a Sahel-like climate in the north and the interior, just look a bit south of me, Justosia still is around a subtropical climate, but he always says that his temperatures are always around 15 degrees, even if that would be pretty much impossible.

Well, I think it would go a bit far to RP a polar climate complete with ice bears and penguins when you are situated on the equator ;) But I understand your point.

Anyway, I had another issue as well. How am I supposed to RP that the people in my RP Köln talk RL Kölsch, the people in my RP Aachen talk RL Öcher Platt, the people in my RP Trier talk RL Berliner Platt, the people in the northernmost province as well as the people in West-Retalia talk something comparable with RL Bavarian or Schwytzerdütsch, while the people in Southern Eiffelland talk High German and the Helgolanders are mentalitywise my Franz-Joseph Strauss type Bavarians?
 
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