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  1. Ambrosia

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    @Justosia I think you should reconsider the late narrative of having tried to record and transmit a diplomatic meeting secretly. For 1 it’s just sensational and unorthodox, and 2 you did not mention that this was going on in your character’s narrative until things really went sour.

    I can put it up for discussion with other mods, if this turns into an argument between @Sylvania and yourself: could Sylvania have disrupted the signal and detained etc. ; but I’d advise that you, Justosia, consider retconning the recording scheme and just having your character leaving angrily.
     
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    Actually it's perfectly explainable. Rather easily so actually. And if he chooses to go forward with that post that was brought on by his OOC anger @ me after the incident I apologized for, than I'm going to respond accordingly. That way. So this sounds childish, but he started it.

    Frankly I feel like I'm also being flagged for unnecessary bs. I'm just trying to play the game. Even if he says that OOC incident didn't factor into this rp play decision, than that means he rp planned to try to play Justosia from the start. And I'll definitely respond accordingly then. With what I have planned.

    I have to get back to work now.
     
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    I am not aware of where the OOC disagreement took place or what that was about precisely prior to this recording device issue. Maybe it’s that only? If you do not want to air that dirty laundry publicly then you can PM me or Norse and maybe we can look at that closer.

    I want you to know that you’re not being flagged for anything, I’m just giving advice to reconsider what’s a strange move: secretly recording and transmitting a diplomatic meeting then publishing it. You also didn’t mention the device as a spy item until the end when they were arguing.

    You seem to be indicating that you do not want to retcon, that’s alright certainly: as I said it was just advice, not a flag or ruling.
     
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    he thinks im mad at him because he tried to rush me with his character thinking shit or get off the pot in a double post.

    anyways I'm not mad, but i think that while my characters act heavy handedly, this is normal for talking to a nation that spends 15 percent of its gdp on military when its relatively isolated and and mostly cut off from the main communist activity area in gallia. ive explained in two posts now that my country sees this as a threat to itself and its alliance partners. he pushes these concerns away, my people act accordingly with an uncooperative diplomat. its really that simple. i did not wish to have to make demands in that way but i felt it appropriate in the current situation.

    justosia can continue to isolate itself and impoverish its people or make a non agression pact with a much more powerful alliance.

    or try and make overtly stupid blackmail moves after me giving his diplomat a ride in MY helicopters to my capital. you csn try and teleport out but i willl not let that happen.
     
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    Look. This is simple. At first it looked like he was just posting that way outta anger. For an OOC incident I APOLOGIZED for. I just want that for the record.

    Now. Looking at Sylvania's foreign policy, that I referenced in my opening post in UB, they generally act as though they're for peace, yet move like they're about to go to war. This is obviously his right. It also makes Sylvania untrustworthy. A common consequence of that stratagem.

    Just as I did in Tibur, all Ambassador Vargas did was leave, text the gist of what happened back to Avalon (which is OBVIOUSLY allowed), & yea, she recorded the conversation. The reason? Stay tuned cuz I'm bout to read his response.
     
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    Okie dokie, leaving the rest to RP until there is a call for mod intervention.
     
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    im calling for mod intervention now because its just going to be a pain to undo any rp if he goes through with his blackmail attempt or doesnt like what i had to do to catch up to his teleport post. he obviously won't agree and neither will i. so why waste the time making further rp posts.
     
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    Done. We straightened it out. Frankly, my side, logic, is irrefutable. Pardon my humility. Sooooo if he persists with being unreasonable, I'll probably just delete the thread.
     
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    It's also not blackmail. Your foreign policy is relatively high risk dude. It's now clear you planned to play Ambassador Vargas, Justosia, from the start. I anticipated that.
     
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    Locking down both threads to sort it out with other mods, given time zones and the state of the world it might be a slow decision. I encourage you both not to privately communicate.
     
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    Our decision was to void both the recording/transmission attempt and thus void the arrest prompt. It would be best to simply assume the meeting didn’t end well and that they went their separate ways angrily anyways. @Justosia could still go to their news and paraphrase and describe how the meeting went, but there should be no hidden recording of the meeting and no Sylvanian arrest.

    As a side note: when I played Engellachia they were constantly concerned about Cussian spying and phone line bugs . . I also intend some of that to be a thing for leaders and spies of my new nation, but I think if one begins incorporating this in early in threads, that the character is concealing the device somehow or is concerned with spy craft, it would be a more plausible as a plot device later on.
     
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    (OOC: Visa ve the mod decision I'm going to RP Ambassador Vargas ONLY texting the gist of her conversation to Avalon. As far as I know that's still legal here. Didn't know where else to post this. Thanks mods for your swiftness. Sorry about the misunderstanding @Sylvania)
     
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