Pelasgia 4.0: Remarkably normal

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  1. Pelasgia

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    General Concept
    At first glance Pelasgia 4.0 recreates Pelasgia 1.0, a Byzantine Empire that has survived to the present day, with a mix of modern Greece for culture and a great deal of modern Turkish influence for statecraft and politics. Functionally, Pelasgia 4.0 is meant to be different from previous incarnations of Pelasgia in one main way: stability. In this regard, Pelasgia is to be modeled after modern (post-war) Japan: a stable, conservative and corporate capitalist country, with a parliamentary system dominated by a centre right coalition and a constitutional monarchy where the monarch is distant and purely symbolic. The common religion, Orthodox Christianity, is equally rather symbolic in its role, being a big part of the collective identity and with many of its traditions followed in detail, but with declining and relatively low belief in many of the metaphysical aspects, especially among the urban classes (a more modern Athenian perception of Orthodoxy than the Byzantine, fundamentalist outlook of previous iterations of Pelasgia). As a result, Pelasgia will also be a much more developed country, with a declining but relatively large and educated population, a professional high-cost military and preference for diplomacy over war, and considerable integration in global diplomatic channels, even if it will still be somewhat culturally xenophobic. Gone are the days of constant coups, revolts and internal unrest; Pelasgia 4.0's biggest concerns will be its aging and shrinking population, its trade balance, debt and financial data, and perhaps some border disputes with newer, more lively societies. Pelasgia is to be a centre of stability for its region and a moderating force all around.

    Basic Information
    Nation Name: Pelasgia, Empire of Pelasgia (Πελασγία, Πελασγική Αυτοκρατορία - Pelasgía, Pelasgikí Aftokratoría)
    Demonym: Pelasgian
    Official Language: Standard Modern Pelasgian (Modern Greek); Clergy & Emperor often use various forms of Ancient Pelasgian (Ancient Greek) for religious and traditional ceremonies
    National Anthem: "Save o Lord thy People" (Troparion of the True Cross - Orchestral - Vocal)
    National Motto: Νίψον ανομήματα μη μόναν όψιν ("Wash thy sins, not only thy face")
    Important Dates:
    1 April 286 - First division of the Tiburan Empire
    11 May 330 - Founding of Propontis as New Tibur on the site of ancient Iopolis
    17 January 395 - Final North-South division of the Tiburan Empire
    12 April 1204 - Fourth Crusade, capture and sack of Propontis by the Catholic armies
    25 July 1261 - Reconquest of Propontis, beginning of the rise of Pelasgian proto-nationalism in the Empire
    15 May 1468 - Final recapture of all of the mainland territories of the Empire from the Crusader states
    15 August 1669 - Final recapture of all the insular territories of the Empire from the Crusader states
    7 October 1721 - Sinking of the Great Propontine Fleet off of Tibur; beginning of the Hundred Years' Decline
    25 November 1723 - Occupation of Kyparissos by the Engells
    3 September 1867 - Beginning of the Komnenian Restoration; Pelasgia's first modern Constitution begins the period of Westernisation; end of the Southern Tiburan Empire, formal reognanisation into the Empire of Pelasgia
    1 June 1881 - End of the Engell occupation of Kyparissos; supression of the last Dynatoi revolt in the Leuktran War of 1880-1881
    15 August 1887 - Capture of Tephanon by the new Imperial Pelasgian Navy, widely considered the beginning of Pelasgia's Imperialist Period and the Pelasgian Colonial Empire
    13 September 1907 - (Foundation of the Pelasgian Southern Himyari Company, beginning of Pelasgia's colonisation of the Far South?)
    30 October 1926 - Nzimaland Border War between Pelasgia and the Petites-Pays">@Petites-Pays colonial government ends in minor Pelasgian territorial acquisitions near the Southeastern frontier of the Pelasgia, on the Sea of Buto (no actual change on the map intended, since the territories in question would already be part of current Pelasgia)
    15 August 1936 - Beginning of the Militarist Junta, in response of global and domestic economic troubles, social and labour unrest, and military tensions with neighbouring nations due to militarism, imperialism and nationalism
    ? ? 1956 - Status Quo Treaty signed with @Kadikistani Union following the First Jutinian Crisis; the first cracks start to show in the Militarist Junta's control over the Pelasgian public
    27 February 1957 - Collapse of the Militarist Junta following a defeat in the Second Nzimaland Border War and a closely averted war in the Archipelago; return to civilian rule with the Pelasgian Constitution of 1957
    (5 April 1971 - Independence of the Far Southern Territories of the Pelasgian Southern Himyari Company as the Far Southern Republic?)
    9 November 2008 - Treaty of Zarakas; Pelasgia cedes its last overseas colonial territory, ending the Pelasgian Colonial Empire; Pelasgia retains two Sovereign Base Areas for strategic reasons
    Capital & Largest City: Propontis (15.07 million)
    2nd Largest City: Thermi (5.45 million)
    Currency: Pelasgian Obol (Οϐ)
    Government Type: Unitary Constitutional Parliamentary Monarchy
    Head of State: Emperor Andronikos III Komnenos
    Head of Government: Prime Minister Themistokles Notaras
    Population: 127,192,032
    GDP: $4.872 trillion
    GDP per capita: $38,428.10
    Legislature: bicameral; Boule of Representatives (Lower), Senate (Upper); collectively called the "Common Parliament" (Koinovoulio)
    Judiciary: Split into three branches: Civil & Criminal (Court of Cassation) and Administrative (Council of State), with a separate High Court for state fiscal matters (Court of Audit); all can appeal to the Supreme Court of Pelasgia, Pelasgia's constitutional and electoral court
    Official/State Religion: Orthodox Christianity (N.B. this is mostly ceremonial)
    Religions by Percentage:
    74% Orthodox Christian (54% practicing to some degree according to census)
    11.6% Tiburan Catholic
    3.4% Jewish
    10% Non-religious
    1% Other
    Major Ethnic Groups*:
    80% Pelasgian
    8% Kyphtic (Coptic)
    6% Haydian (Armenian)
    5% Urudoah
    1% Other
    *Ethnic groups in Pelasgia are measured culturally and linguistically; ancestry admixture is very common and thus actual ancestry is difficult to define due to centuries of cultural proximity, enforcement of cultural homogenization (particularly since the advent of 19th century Pelasgian Nationalism) and a lack of prejudice against intermarriage between indigenous ethnic groups

    POLICIES
    Law enforcement: Despite having a world-class judiciary and strong protection for civil liberties, Pelasgia has a strong, national civilian police force with wide-reaching powers, a fact which has contributed to an exceptionally low crime rate. Moreover, Pelasgia retains the death penalty, though it is seldom actually used, as well as a notable absence of parole or sentence reduction for most felonies.

    Economy: Pelasgia is a modern, corporate economy which focuses on industrial exports and technological innovations, as well as a host of services. In practice, the economy is controlled by a select few business conglomerates which work closely with the Government and Bank of Pelasgia. Labour unions exist but a general culture of dedication to work in return for lifelong employment makes labour disturbances rare; when they do occur, the Government almost always steps in to mediate. Young Pelasgians typically compete to gain access to the country's top schools to earn a position in of the large business conglomerates, hoping for lifelong employment to sustain a family (Pelasgian families typically consist of a man and a woman of similar socio-economic status, and two children).

    International Trade: Pelasgia, being an export-oriented economy, continually promotes global international trade and free trade. In practice, however, Pelasgia retains several protectionist measures, as well as non-tariff barriers to trade and subsidies, to protect its edge in several key industries.

    Military Service: Since the fall of the Militarist Regime in the 1950s, Pelasgia has abolished conscription and generally tends to avoid foreign wars. Pelasgia maintains a relatively large and modern, professional and highly trained army, equipped with expensive equipment that emphasizes quality over quantity and a defensive doctrine. Nevertheless, Pelasgia is very actively involved in international anti-piracy operations and various peacekeeping operations globally, particularly in its native Himyar.

    Religious Freedom: Once highly restricted, religious freedom has been generally expanded along with the rise of de facto secularism and de facto irreligion since the 1950s. The vast majority of Pelasgian citizens ascribe to a certain religion formally, but most are 'culturally religious' and do not practice. An increasing percentage of younger generations is irreligious. However, religious festivals and several superstitions still play a major role in Pelasgian public life.

    Freedom of Speech: Just like other major political freedoms, freedom of speech and of the press is widely protected in Pelasgia by the Constitution of 1950. Some restrictions, such as bans of appeals to terrorism or violence, do exist. Notably, Pelasgia has staunch restrictions on pornography.

    LGBT Policy: Despite a history of homophobic laws, modern Pelasgia generally has a good record on LGBT rights, allowing civil unions/legal cohabitation for homosexuals and with no legal restrictions on same-sex relationships. However, cultural taboos and a generally conservative culture result in a lack of public display of homosexuality; sexuality in Pelasgia is widely regarded as a private matter, and public displays of romance (heterosexual or homosexual) are frowned upon.

    Firearm Policy: Pelasgia is noted for its strict gun laws, and its generally lightly armed police. The exception is rural areas, where a great many Pelasgians own hunting weapons. The region of the Archipelago has traditionally been known for its gun culture and organised crime, being a notable exception.

    Foreign Aid: Pelasgia dedicates a noteworthy amount of funding to foreign aid, to boost its international image, though some of it often comes with strings of preferential trade deals.

    Abortion Policy: Abortion is available to women in limited circumstances, including endangerment of their health or economic hardship. The Penal Code of Pelasgia makes abortion de jure illegal in the country, but exceptions to the law are broad enough that it is widely accepted and practiced. However, abortion, like homosexuality, is considered a taboo and private issue.

    Healthcare Availability: Pelasgia enjoys public healthcare and public insurance, which even extends to relatively cheap dental and eye care. Hospitals are generally public, and renowned globally for their high care. However, wait times are generally long, leading many richer Pelasgians to private clinics.

    Energy & Environmental Policy: Environmentalism and alternative energy have wide support in Pelasgia, though the Government generally prefers nuclear power. Pelasgia's wide reserves of oil are also a reason for the Government to generally oppose much anti-pipeline legislation. Pelasgia generally protects marine life, especially dolphins and the local kareta turtles, but its fishing and whaling laws have been denounced by global environmental groups.

    Immigration Policy: Pelasgia is generally very xenophobic with regards to its immigration policy. Citizenship can only be acquired through a handful of limited paths, such as marrying a local or proving extensive connection to Pelasgia and long residency, and does not confer Nationality, which is legally separate and required for certain political rights. Nationality may only be inherited or granted by a Government Decree. Nevertheless, Pelasgia allows skilled workers and foreign students, as well as many tourists every year. Increasingly, foreign labour is used to compensate for Pelasgia's population decline. Many are proposing relaxed immigration and citizenship laws; for the time being, however, Pelasiga is a difficult country to settle and remain in legally, and draconian immigration enforcement makes the illegal alternative equally difficult.

    Drug Policy: Pelasgia is notorious for its harsh drug laws, which even include capital punishment for some offences. All drugs, even marijuana, are banned severely with tough prison sentences. Pharmaceutics are also tightly regulated, though this is partly to protect the large Pelasgian pharmaceutical industry from competition. Drugs are seen very negatively by the public at large. The Imperial Pelasgian Police warn travelers against importing even the smallest quantity of recreational narcotics.

    Alcohol and Tobacco: Both alcohol and tobacco are only accessible at 18 years of age, and are taxed and regulated by the Government to a considerable degree. Tobacco is targeted by a public health campaign, including special packaging to discourage smoking, while alcohol use by drivers and young Pelasgians is actively discouraged.


    Thanks to Clarenthia">@Clarenthia for this format, which I chose to use (i.e. steal) 'cause it's much more neat than any of mine. I'll post more ideas and details soon.

    Essentially, I've grown rather tired of Pelasgia in its current form, as I've stated in the recent past both publicly and in private chats on the forum and on the discord server. The behemoth of second world cheap industry and constant wars, political crises and coups/rebellions that was Pelasgia 0.5-Pelasgia 3.0 was very enjoyable while it lasted, but I neither have the time nor the resolve to keep playing. I've tried devising IC ways to return Pelasgia to a kind of normality (@Beautancus and Natal">@Natal are to be thanked for their contribution to this) but, as I admitted to Ovi recently, Pelasgia is "fucked up beyond repair". Despite this, I recognise that Pelasgia cannot be greened and I have no intention of greening this country at any point in the future. Instead, I plan to retcon (as much as I hate it, there's no nicer way of doing this without losing resolves through months of IC effort) Pelasgia 3.0 into Pelasgia 4.0, as a more normal, peaceful, modern state. I won't be able to RP as much as before in coming months and years, and a more relaxed IC country whose main issues are internal, with a few trade disputes and international disputes, will be easier to do this with. I don't plan on abandoning the Far South just yet, though I will have to reevaluate how to fit it in with a Pelasgia that might fit very well with modern day imperialism (though it certainly fits with whaling and corporate capitalism/economic nationalism).

    All comments and suggestions are welcome.
     
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  2. Pelasgia

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    Really dig that flag.
     
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    A shame to lose all that RP. I think it would have been interesting to see you climb out of the repeated crises if I'm honest.
     
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    Very Trebizondian flag. Trebizonese? Trebizonian? If we trust EU4 anyway.
     
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    Trapezuntine, apparently. According to wikipedia, anyway.
     
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    I would have liked it too, but I don't think I had the energy for it. Still, I very much understand why you would feel that way.

    By the way, how do you feel about these two historical points?
     
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    Happy with the first date, would prefer the handover of Tephanon happened closer to the present time.
     
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    I understand your reasons to redo Pelasgia. It is the same reason why I keep Eiffelland-Retalia a calm country.

    But now I'm hoping that you and I will ICly still have good relations.
     
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    Status update on state of relations, please.
     
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    Sure, we can make it 2018 perhaps?

    Of course, perhaps even more so that Pelasgia and Eiffelland are officially back on the peaceful constitutional monarchies squad.

    I don't see any reason for any bad blood between us. Pelasgia would want to keep the Long Sea open for trade & Gallo-Germania peaceful for the same reason just like always, so Pelasgia and Serenierre would have to work together inevitably, if only out of practical considerations.



    Unrelated to this but I might need some history partners for this segment:

    The Second Nzimaland Border War could be a more generalised conflict, that perhaps drew in other Himyari countries wishing to put an end to Pelasgia's unchecked imperialism since the First Nzimaland Border War (sort of like Himyar's WWI and WWII). Natal">@Natal and Azraq">@Azraq could perhaps have had a hand in this. Pelasgia at that point would be trying to pull a Japan and create a "Greater Himyari Co-Prosperity Sphere", so to speak, so naturally other Himyari states would be a bit stressed. Stressed enough to pull resources to cut Pelasgia's incursion into Nzimaland short.

    As for the Archipelago Crisis, I thought of it consisting of Pelasgia claiming a large chunk of the Long Sea as its territorial waters, or attempting to pull a Cyprus in Nicosia">@Nicosia . After an initial Pelasgian victory in a couple of sea battle, several local states would pull their fleets/resources together and drive back the Pelasgian fleet. Coupled with a defeat in the Second Nzimaland Border War, this would cause Pelasgia to seek peace and would topple the Militarist Regime, ending Pelasgia's imperialist and militarist period with it.

    Some of the fleets could even include the Engells or other interested parties.

    Thoughts?
     
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    I'm not so sure why you are doing this to be honest, your RP was just taking a really dynamic turn that imho can also be pursued with lessened activity.
     
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    As stated, I've just gotten tired of constant instability, coups, reconstruction etc. I have never really RPed a stable nation except for Pelasgia 0.5 (the Edessine Empire), which lasted around a month from what I remember. My first nation, Caria, was the breakup of Yugoslavia on steroids. As for Pelasgia, we all know how that story has been going.

    I also disagree on the lessened activity part. Pelasgia had many storylines set up, all of which involved some degree of highly time-consuming RP (some international/war-like with @Beautancus , others internal but still bound to shake things up, such as the general strike, EKKP terrorism, Melingian minority unrest and regime instability with the PPP populists trying to take over and change the Constitution yet again). I could RP Pelasgia with less activity, but that would require me to kill all those storylines, and what would I be left with then? RPing reconstruction for the next 5 years of IRL time? That might be an interesting RP but 1. only if accompanied with some foreign involvement (occupation/country being split like me and Ovi had once planned etc) and 2. I'm rather bored of that sort of RP after so long.

    As I said, all comments are welcome, but we'll just have to disagree on this.
     
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    Given some confusion, I might consider changing Pelasgia's name to something else, to avoid people mixing up Pelasgia pre-reboot and Pelasgia post-reboot. I had some people on the discord asking why Pelasgia post-reboot needs a foreign worker program, so there clearly is some lack of clarity.
     
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    Leleges or Minyan-themed name, maybe? I dunno if you'd need to change names myself, but if that's where you want to go, it's just where you want to go.
     
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    Not particularly excited to, tbh. I guess I'll give it a couple of weeks of transition for people to read up and adjust, and if that fails I'll come up with something. Good recommendations by the way, it's how I came up with Pelasgia in the first place.
     
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    Have always really liked and appreciated the name (Pelasgia) for that reason myself. Depending on how "the other mess" turns out, or how soon, I'm still on board to pitch in with ideas previously discussed as well. Honestly would be more interested in that than what's going now, but can't back out at this point.
     
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    It's understandable. Ironically, I'm not sure how compatible that planned RP is with Pelasgia 4.0 (given that it was designed to bring about a regime change in Pelasgia 3.0) but we could salvage it into something useful. Maybe an opportunity for Pelasgia's Samaras/Abe/Sarkozy-like Conservative PM to flex some muscle and send some funds to the army, breaking with the post-1950s pacifist consensus. But that's a topic for once you're free from the Burgundian situation, of course.
     
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