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Nueva Betica

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Ariadna Montes
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I have always been respected for saying my thoughts loudly and for being a defender of the downtrodden. Nueva Betica doesn't need to bring immigrants from outside the Occidentian Community, especially as our state can't even ensure housing and labour for our citizens, and then for comunity citizens, let alone bringing in hundreds of thousands of Caledonians. With the attack on the NA flight 356, it is clear that the Church of Solaren, from Gallo-Germania, is spreading here too and we must not allow that. This nation was developed on the precepts of Secularism, and this must not change. We will join in with the Blancos to vote tomorrow against the Refugee Bill.
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Marissa López de Herrera
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We are working tirelessly to find out exactly what happened and why, but let us all be clear. What is happening in Cumana now is just a weaponization of this tragedy, less than than 24 since it happened and I will not allow it. The Rojos, allegedly allies of ours, but which have stabbed us in the back, are pushing a populist approach to cause chaos just so that they can step on the victims of this catastrophe, just for the sake of political gains.
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Nueva Betica

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A leak from the police investigation has turned the narrative of the Neobetican Airlines Flight 356 totally around. It seems that 15 of the victims were top lieutenants of the Rio Guayas Cartel. Further investigation of the communications between the tower and the plane and its black box have shown that the initial news of an attacker stating that he was doing it to fight heretics and pagans is false. The Authorities now believe that the accident might have been caused by a device hidden within the plane and rather than Urbanites, the perpetrators might be members of the criminal underworld, which tried to decapitate a rival cartel. #ElEspectador #WesternJournalism
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OTW

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Why are urbanites already being imprisoned in Pelasgia? Were they provenly involved in the attacks? Or are they simply holding them under general suspicion? And let me guess, as a cherry on top, not a single arrest in Pelasgia takes place under a judge's order. ;)
 

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So the ship terrorists are demanding the release of clerical dignitaries who have already been arrested???...Interesting!

I wonder how crazy this story can get? The only thing missing is that tomorrow we will report that a bishop executed 140 people on New Year's Eve with pyrotechnic fireworks in order to start the new year with good luck. Meanwhile, he probably also slurped pureed brain from a skull bone.

We are simply all witnessing a conspiratorial chain reaction that is turning into a media shitstorm! Wake the fuck up!
(OOC: This RP has been retconned, so it's no longer a thing. The attacks never took place, since the community apparently considered them too ridiculous to even acknowledge.)

@andreaswolf.otp

Why are urbanites already being imprisoned in Pelasgia? Were they provenly involved in the attacks? Or are they simply holding them under general suspicion? And let me guess, as a cherry on top, not a single arrest in Pelasgia takes place under a judge's order. ;)
Pelasgos1 @RandomPelasgian1
Judges don't order arrests, they order pre-trial detention. It's the police that make arrests. Unless there's a judge accompanying every police officer
in "OTW", whatever that name means. Also, being a high-ranking member of a designated terror group is typically considered a crime in most countries. Not in ones named after a meme and with a meme as a flag, apparently.
 

YUANGUO

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Statement from the Grand Chancellor

By written command from his imperial majesty the Fu Emperor, the Court in Da Qiao, its members and the Palace, condemn without restraint nor reservation the utter cowardly act that took place in Caledonia recently. A tragedy no doubt. In accordance with the Empire's humanitarian commitment for Caledonia, the Court will reopen the Yuan Embassy in Dun Eidynn that will be accredited to urgent stations, working closely with the stable Josepanian-led station, to provide smooth, safe and orderly coordination of food and medical aid among other provisions that include but are not limited to transport, resettlement and education. Access to humanitarian provisions will according to Yuan foreign policy be dependent upon the stability of the affected area for aid givers to operate safely.

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Statement from HM the King of Jianshan

To our friends in @Josepania, who now doubtless are distraught and angered by the calamity that has befallen your great Empress. And, to the Emperor. We share your sorrow and your pain, the profound burden is not yours to shoulder alone but that of mine, the Kingdom and the country. For not long ago that my beloved son was too swept by disaster in similar circumstances, yet he stayed strong. I too share and hope the same for the Empress that her imperial majesty is not frustrated by this cowardly attack, but all the more resilient in her cause, in the cause of Caledonia for Caledonians for rebuilding and rejuvenation of the island peoples

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Mulberry tree planted days ago by Imperial Botanist at protected park near Josepania Embassy in Da Qiao, to celebrate 35th birthday of El Emperador, growing well according to parkgoers. Some have even left kind and encouraging remarks for the Emperor to stay resilient amidst the tragedy faced by the Empress in Caledonia. The letters placed by the tree have since been collected and sent to the embassy.​
 

Spasciria

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Neobeticans NEED soul searching. A plane CRASHES killing everyone and the opposition THROWS MUD. Very SICKENING politcs. NO SOLIDARITY. Exactly why Spasciria needs OUT of trade with just one region and DIVERSIFY! @Nueva Betica
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Sylvania

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It is incredibly sad to see, that in the wake of terror, Caledonian refugees have found themselves in the crosshairs of vile anti immigrant sentiment in Nueva Betica. Caledonians formed the founding stock of Sylvania, one of our commonwealths bears Caledonia's name. I cannot stand idly by while hundreds of thousands of Caledonian refugee lives are put at risk because of a CLEARLY racist sentiment that is brewing in our Occidentian neighbor. Should these Caledonian refugees feel the need to flee this growing racism in Neuva Betica, they will be welcome in Sylvania.
 

Nueva Betica

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The Colorados continue the legacy of my grandfather, fighting for the people, animated by a spirit of solidarity, not only at home, but abroad. The Blancos and the Rojos are using this tragedy for their own gains, showing not only a lack of scruples, but a complete disrespect for the victims and for the people of this proud nation. I will personally meet with the victims' families to offer my condolences and will begin a grand policing campaign, to ensure that the country isn't going back into the dark days of the 1980s, with rising criminality and instability.
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(OOC: This RP has been retconned, so it's no longer a thing. The attacks never took place, since the community apparently considered them too ridiculous to even acknowledge.)


Pelasgos1 @RandomPelasgian1
Judges don't order arrests, they order pre-trial detention. It's the police that make arrests. Unless there's a judge accompanying every police officer
in "OTW", whatever that name means. Also, being a high-ranking member of a designated terror group is typically considered a crime in most countries. Not in ones named after a meme and with a meme as a flag, apparently.


(OOC. : I read the article when it was fresh dropped and there was no indication that it was fake news. I will be revising the twatt soon due to the circumstances. OTW is one of my favorites Music albums from the last few years: "OuttaThisWorld" by GNKK [This section contains unpaid advertising!])

@andreaswolf.otp

OTW is named after the founding fathers order, Ordo Tempus Warra. A lodge system with a traditional community that still exists . Their legitimacy is undisputed.

No arrest, just pre-trial detention? Of course that makes a the difference for an innocent person. Our police officers are not accompanied by judges, they act with the help of their reason and then make rational decisions that go hand in hand with all the rights and responsibilities of citizens. For arrests, evidence must be submitted to the court, filed and approved, then legally executed by order.
 

Pelasgia

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(OOC. : I read the article when it was fresh dropped and there was no indication that it was fake news. I will be revising the twatt soon due to the circumstances. OTW is one of my favorites Music albums from the last few years: "OuttaThisWorld" by GNKK [This section contains unpaid advertising!])

@andreaswolf.otp

OTW is named after the founding fathers order, Ordo Tempus Warra. A lodge system with a traditional community that still exists . Their legitimacy is undisputed.

No arrest, just pre-trial detention? Of course that makes a the difference for an innocent person. Our police officers are not accompanied by judges, they act with the help of their reason and then make rational decisions that go hand in hand with all the rights and responsibilities of citizens. For arrests, evidence must be submitted to the court, filed and approved, then legally executed by order.

(OOC: I think it would be a good idea to do a fully fleshed out factbook, rn it's unclear how OTW came about--and to maybe get a new avatar. Cool song, though.)


Pelasgos1 @RandomPelasgian1
An arrest is made by police if they witness a crime taking place or by order of a prosecutor if evidence of a crime emerges following a complaint submitted to him. Pre-trial detention takes place after the arraignment, when a detained suspect is brought before a judge who determines that the suspect must be held pending trial due to re-offence or flight risk concerns. In this case, the police could obviously notice that a crime was being committed (i.e., the "bishops" were publicly leading a designated terror group), so they could be arrested in flagrante delicto. I assume that in OTW, if the police see me robbing a store, they have to go and file evidence and await a judgment before arresting me, at which point I might as well have fled the country.
 

Josepania

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I vehemently disagree with the
to deny El Emperador's request to be with his wife in her time of need. While there are legitimate security concerns, this is cruel on a personal level. I vow to fight to reverse this decision.

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I am stunned by the decision reached by the Imperial Congress' decision. I understand the dangers in my request, but I just wish to be with my wife and do what little I can to help her. I pray those who voted against can come to their senses soon.


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Nueva Betica

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President Marissa de Herrera has met with the families of the victims at the Roberto Flores Conference Center in Cumana. There were some absentees, namely the families of the alleged cartel members, but the majority have participated at the event. The president promised that the perpetrators will be brought to justice and that the nation will never return to the drug fuelled Bloody Decade. The Government also announced a one million peso aid to every family that lost a member in the air crash. The investigation is ongoing, while the area is by now being cleaned up. #ElEspectador #WesternJournalism
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Between 1985 and 1995, the name Nueva Betica was synonimous with cocaine trafficking, narcoterrorism, huge criminality and a wave of refugees that left for Josepania, Sylvania, Auraria and the Hansa. Today, we have put behind these shameful labels, but back then, the world opened their arms to us, and while some always accused all of us of being cartel sicarios, they were just an annoying minority. Recently, we have faced an episode not of clerical terrorism, but of narcoterrorism. While we stand together with the suffering families, it is shameful that elements of our society are still turning their back to the people in need, and have brought down the Refugee Bill. History will judge them harshly.
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Pelasgia

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With the conclusion of the Multilateral Trade Agreement and the Pelasgia-Toyou Community Free Trade Agreement, a massive zone of free trade has been created stretching from Toyou all the way to Occidentia, with Pelasgia at the crossroads. Adding to this is the recent Pelasgia-Sylvania Agreement on Trade and Visas, which further solidifies Pelasgia's position as a central node of international trade. From finance and shipping to heavy industry and tourism, the Pelasgia economy only stands to grow from these arrangements. #MTA #PTC-FTA #PSATV

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The Constitutional Democratic Party's approach of careful diplomacy and trade-oriented neutrality has paid off! Pelasgia is now ideally placed to serve as a hub of global commerce, ensuring greater prosperity for both Pelasgians and our trade partners the world over. Moreover, joined by commerce and travel, the dozen or so countries affected by the web of agreements made up by #MTA #PTC-FTA #PSATV will be able to cultivate amicable ties, promoting world peace. Another way forward is possible, if we are all brave enough to seize it--and the international community has proven this today!

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The Tiburan Catholic Church in Pelasgia condemns the heresy of Urbanism and refuses to recognise the Urbanists or those who sympathise with them as Christians. We join our Orthodox brothers in Christ in calling the so-called "Church of Solaren" what it really is: a pagan death cult, which has no connection with the teachings of our Lord and Saviour. We offer our prayers for the Empress of Josepania and all those harmed in the recent wave of attacks.
 

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(OOC: I think it would be a good idea to do a fully fleshed out factbook, rn it's unclear how OTW came about--and to maybe get a new avatar. Cool song, though.)


Pelasgos1 @RandomPelasgian1
An arrest is made by police if they witness a crime taking place or by order of a prosecutor if evidence of a crime emerges following a complaint submitted to him. Pre-trial detention takes place after the arraignment, when a detained suspect is brought before a judge who determines that the suspect must be held pending trial due to re-offence or flight risk concerns. In this case, the police could obviously notice that a crime was being committed (i.e., the "bishops" were publicly leading a designated terror group), so they could be arrested in flagrante delicto. I assume that in OTW, if the police see me robbing a store, they have to go and file evidence and await a judgment before arresting me, at which point I might as well have fled the country.


(OOC. : Of course Mr. Random Double Eagle Pelasgia. Your wish is my command. I work on the factbook. I won't change the flag, as long as i can laugh about it,because the way the guy is wearing the fish as a hat, is kind of funny.)

@andreaswolf.otp

(I) What world do you actually live in to claim that robberies in OTW are not prosecuted by the police? I hate to repeat myself, but I will for do once. Our executive use ratio and Basic Law Codes for there actions. That means keeping the national crime level as low as possible. This also includes maintaining public safety. Like, robbery crime, which you have already mentioned as an example. (II) Organized crime, cartel formation and corruption, on the other hand, are matters for the judiciary. Ordered by the public prosecutor after confirmation by the court and then carried out by the executive branch. The police is a significant part of the security apparatus. However, ...when it comes to organized crime, the national Office for the Protection of the Constitution/Intelligence Service/Secret Service/is responsible for it. In other words, an independent agency for information gathering that contributes solving crimes.
And not an unqualified group of thugs with rubber truncheons and questionable interrogation methods.
 

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Has canon law also stipulated that the chair of the institutions remains vacant for more than half a year while cardinals do not agree and councils lead to nothing else than CO2 emissions?

After all, the Pope acts in the name of Petrus as a key, representing people as an intermediary to God. And as a devout Catholic, I don't want to spend a day without the care, of the truth
 

Pelasgia

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(OOC. : Of course Mr. Random Double Eagle Pelasgia. Your wish is my command. I work on the factbook. I won't change the flag, as long as i can laugh about it,because the way the guy is wearing the fish as a hat, is kind of funny.)

@andreaswolf.otp

(I) What world do you actually live in to claim that robberies in OTW are not prosecuted by the police? I hate to repeat myself, but I will for do once. Our executive use ratio and Basic Law Codes for there actions. That means keeping the national crime level as low as possible. This also includes maintaining public safety. Like, robbery crime, which you have already mentioned as an example. (II) Organized crime, cartel formation and corruption, on the other hand, are matters for the judiciary. Ordered by the public prosecutor after confirmation by the court and then carried out by the executive branch. The police is a significant part of the security apparatus. However, ...when it comes to organized crime, the national Office for the Protection of the Constitution/Intelligence Service/Secret Service/is responsible for it. In other words, an independent agency for information gathering that contributes solving crimes.
And not an unqualified group of thugs with rubber truncheons and questionable interrogation methods.

(OOC: You do you. I just won't bother acknowledging a joke of a nation IC.)


Pelasgos1 @RandomPelasgian1
You hate repeating... something you never said? Also, apparently arrests can take place without a judge's intervention in OTW? Wow, we're making progress. The notion you're looking for is called "notitia criminis"--it is the knowledge of the crime that the judiciary (not the "executive"--does OTW not have separation of powers?) must have in order to prosecute a crime. In the case of a crime in flagrante delicto, the notitia criminis is the direct perception of the crime by the police. In the case of a crime not so committed or a suspected crime, a report needs to be submitted to the judiciary. In the case of the Urbanite "bishops," the proscription decree designating their organisation as a terror group constitutes notitia criminis, so the police can make the arrest. Since the "bishops" are already inscribed as officials of the designated terror group in public records, their participation in the said organisation is ipso facto a crime, that they can be arrested for. Thanks for playing Criminal Law 101. Blocked.
 
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