July 2023 Map Thread — Magic Marlene

[Jydsken-Østveg]

July 2023 Map Thread!

Here is the update for July 2023! It was one of the more difficult ones because requests over the last 2-3 months have been topsy-turvy to put it mildly at best, down right bi-polar with a case of ADHD at worst. What I'd like to say that is in the coming maps to come, if this is going to be a trend, new limitations and restrictions will be swiftly advocated for, so lets not make changes for changes sake anymore. Please be calculated and use the tools at your disposal before making map requests. That means...

1. Open a thread to discuss with your peers.
2. Create a draft wiki-page to help give us understand the project better.
3. When coming up with a concept do a complete job and advocate for all of your project, even if you don't plan to have it mapped all at once.
4. Don't be afraid to ask for help.

Otherwise lets get to the changes...

• I removed the waves, I hope to make that easier on your eyes
• I removed several of the filters, I hope that also makes it easier on your eyes
• All of the resources from the resource map are now on the map
  • I believe a discussion could be had about the resource symbols
  • Some ideas include less meme-like symbols to change them to periodic table of elements based symbols
  • New resources might be an idea, but placement might be a question
  • Should colonial ideas be allowed to take resources? How should a process go to allow for it?
  • Some resources have slightly moved, but not in active RP areas
• The map's total size was increased to hopefully allow for the globe project to easily sync, this is in the north
• The Antarctic project is removed, it was hoped that this could allow for a new avenue for RP but the EF ruled early for its neutrality and everyone agreed. Its been untouched for two years and is now removed in the interest of a better looking map
• Himyar has been expanded. There was talk that the percentage of water to land was too heavily skewed towards water. This hopefully fixes that a little while making Himyar look a bit more interesting I hope.
• Scania has been expanded. This was done to allow for current RP to remain uninterrupted and allow for a player to ethnically cluster better
  • I had hoped to green a lot of my own projects there sooner, but because they are tied up in RP, that wasn't possible
  • Scania hopefully still has an empty space that could prove interesting
  • I still plan to green part of my own plots up there once the current RP narrative concludes
• Many countries were greened as advocated, perhaps insisted upon by the player base
  • If your country was removed, you probably haven't touched it in close to a year, if not more. If so, you may apply again to get on the map again
  • Some countries that are ancient are still on the map!? Yes, it wasn't a complete job, but that's because they were too small for me to care to notice them
  • Some countries were greened because they have too many projects and those projects are also inactive. They are free to re-apply whichever concepts they want to keep, but please be polite and remove your inactive nations in the future
• The map file size is significantly smaller! We're being more efficient with fewer layers!
• A new blank map is provided!
• A new template for applying to the map has been provided. If you do not follow it, you will not be mapped!
• The inactivity list will no longer be a thing! It wasn't a very effective project with map postings not organized routinely, and so a new process is elaborated below.

...and now for the old copy pasta info!

Someday Xen will bless us with something more official link wise, but for now, we meet pCloud.com servers again!

In regards to pCloud, many have complained about the links in the past saying they have to make an account! Nope! Not true! Make sure you read all the small print and if I remember right on mobile you have to click download. The file is perhaps large for phones though, so if you have a data plan on your phone that you have to worry about, don't say I didn't warn you! The file size can be found next to the file.

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Are you applying for a MAP SPOT? Follow this template below precisely!

• If the mapmaker cannot read or understand your application, you may suffer from errors or a mapmaker designed solution
• Do not add superfluous additions that only serve to confuse the mapmaker such as rivers, buildings, or otherwise strange scribbles
• If you wish to have a denoted tall mountain added to your plot, you may request it in the miscellaneous section!
• If you want a colonial addition, request it in the miscellaneous section!
• If you have an offbeat request it can be in the miscellaneous section, but please keep it concise and if there is a picture, make it separate from the first one!
• You can request more cities in the future! Just not all at once! It's not fun for the mapmaker to map a lot and then the project is short lived. You can request cities in a small bunch, and then in subsequent maps, you can request two additional cities per map thread (permitted space is available)

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Name of Country: --
Capital City: --
Location of Capital City: --
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): --
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): --
Miscellaneous: --

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INACTIVITY & DISCLAIMER
Role play activity will prevent deletion from the map, there is no minimum activity needed to prevent removal as it is due to Mapmaker discretion, though an announcement of departure in the Absence Thread will excuse a drop off of activity. Prior to future removal, the inactive player will be announced and tagged in the map thread. Requests to remove inactive players can also happen in this thread, but please do so politely and also tag the player in question.

 

[Pelasgia]

Great work as always, Coro, I really like the new Himyar. As promised, and to kick off the new thread, I would like to claim a few areas for the Neustrian colonial empire. This is all open to discussion. My main focus is on the Himyari colony (Loago--the name is a nod to Ovi); the rest is really just ego pixels and me aping the RL French as much as possible, so I can do without them.

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Miscellaneous: 3 colonies:

1. Loago
Location: Blue area in Himyar marked "Loago" (above)
Name of Colony: Loago (Neustria)
Capital City: Philippeville
Location of Capital City: As on map
Additional Major Cities: Saint-Pierre (as on map)

2. Gésire
Location: Blue insular area southeast of Himyar marked "Gésire and Dependencies" (above)
Name of Colony: Protectorate of Gésire and Dependencies (Neustria)
Capital City: Tatave
Location of Capital City: As on map

3. Neustrian Silk Islands
Location: Blue insular area in Oite Sea marked "Neustrian Silk Islands" (above)
Name of Colony: Neustrian Silk Islands
Capital City: Saint-Christophe
Location of Capital City: As on map

 

[Ebria]

Location: Map underneath
Name of Country: Rio de Oro (red border)
Capital City: El Aaiún
Location of Capital City: on the map
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): -
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Sidi Ifni, Villa Cisneros
Miscellaneous:

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Name of Country: Natal (blue border)
Capital City: Puerto Garay
Location of Capital City: on the map
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): -
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Kedougou, Villa Plata
Miscellaneous:

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EDIT: Ignore Natal. Put only Rio de Oro on the map as an Ebrian Colony.

 

[Ghavran]

Location: I discussed these changes with Ovi on Discord, and they said they didn't mind me casually stealing a bunch of Polesia.
Name of Country: Ghavran
Capital City: Whelthaus
Location of Capital City: The large circle
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): Bruchs (south big square) and Rhunddws (north big square)
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Cledren (north small square), Nyddwsciêdd (west small square) and Crnhwim (east small square)
Miscellaneous: Factbooks are incoming. If possible I would quite like the area to be fairly mountainous.

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(Apologies for the retconning... I saw the opportunity to Asia, and I just went with it.)

 

[Josepania]

Not so much a map application as a map alteration request, I'm hoping for the blank space between Propontis & Aresura and The Isphilistines to be filled in as the mapmaker sees fit (that is, additional pixels for either/or entity).

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If this could be accomplished I'd be most appreciative. Thanks, and let me know if further information is acquired.

 

[Thaumantica]

Location: Where now exists Nonestician Commonwealth, southern Thaumantic Sea
Name of Country: Cantignia (Thaumantica)
Capital City: Vesper
Location of Capital City: Red Dot

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Miscellaneous:

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[Natal]

Location : Corrientes on the Kjersti map;
Name of Country: Corrientes
Capital City: Callao
Location of Capital City: as on Kjersti Map
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): Rio Verde, San Sebastian
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Cumana (instead of Antioquia), Yape, Potobamba, Tiltil;
Miscellaneous: Please delete Polesia from the Map; Also, unite Tapenaga and Los Altos into Monterrey, with the capital in Embarcadero;

 

[Groenmark]

Location: the spot between Neustria and Ebria

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Name of Country: Groenmark
Capital City: Gantelhavn
Location of Capital City: the blue dot on the map above
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): the green dots on the map above (Gentborg, Lejren)
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): the orange dots on the map above (Oostfontein, Liederdæm, Raalthus)
Miscellaneous: If possible, i'd like a colony on the following spot

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[Natal]

Location: the spot between Neustria and Ebria

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Name of Country: Groenmark
Capital City: Gantelhavn
Location of Capital City: the blue dot on the map above
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): the green dots on the map above (Gentborg, Lejren)
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): the orange dots on the map above (Oostfontein, Liederdæm, Raalthus)
Miscellaneous: If possible, i'd like a colony on the following spot

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Hey, sorry to be an annoyance but there will be a clash in requests, with Corrientes returning as per the Kjersti map:

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With your colony being part of it. You can, instead, if you want a colony around, take the New South Ivernia colony, because Ivernia as a country is inactive and kept around more like a tribute to the player. Even so, I'd say that while his mainland should be kept, the colony could be up for grabs.

 

[Groenmark]

Hey, sorry to be an annoyance but there will be a clash in requests, with Corrientes returning as per the Kjersti map:

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With your colony being part of it. You can, instead, if you want a colony around, take the New South Ivernia colony, because Ivernia as a country is inactive and kept around more like a tribute to the player. Even so, I'd say that while his mainland should be kept, the colony could be up for grabs.

Sorry, it's my fault, i didn't check your map.
I just changed my request, it should be fine now.

 

[Hanseatic Republics]

Map updating for September is in the works, get last minute requests in.

 

[Angliarique]

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Hi there! Thank you for the great map making.
Just a few additions I'd like for my existing nation.
Name of Country: Angliarique
Additional Major Locations:
1 = Port Stupor
2 = Parry Coast
3 = Little Spasciria
4 (Red outline) = Arcane Cove

 

[Pelasgia]

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[Natal]

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Name of Country: Natal
Capital City: Camp Hill
Location of Capital City: the black dot on the map above
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): Harton and Blackmere
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Parow, Mzuzu
Miscellaneous: If possible, with Drei away for such a long time, I'd like to have somehow his Dune Sea be on the map as some form of an associated state to Natal.

I have deleted the Ebrian colony Natal to replace it with this as an independent state and also, I have deleted the request for Corrientes in Occidentia.

 

[Pelasgia]

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Name of Country: Caria
Capital City: Nauplia
Location of Capital City: 1 on the map
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): Nikaia (5 on the map); Scutari (12 on the map)
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Krini (2 on the map); Aspropol (11 on the map); Malvasia (8 on the map)

 

[Pelasgia]

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Name of Country: Caria
Capital City: Nauplia
Location of Capital City: 1 on the map
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): Nikaia (5 on the map); Scutari (12 on the map)
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Krini (2 on the map); Aspropol (11 on the map); Malvasia (8 on the map)

@Jydsken-Østveg you have every right to hate me for this, but I would like to submit the below instead of Caria, following consultation with @Radilo and @Oltremare , as I intend to RP with it:

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Location: Red on the map
Name of Country: Pelasgia
Capital City: Propontis
Location of Capital City: as currently on map
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): Krini (as on map); Attaleia (as on map)
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Makri (as on map); Hagios Andreas (as on map); Rhaedestus (as on map)

 

[Remuria]

I still suggest the itsy bitsy tiny speck in south-east Rheinbund be shoved into Rheinbund.

 

[Radilo]

@Jydsken-Østveg you have every right to hate me for this, but I would like to submit the below instead of Caria, following consultation with @Radilo and @Oltremare , as I intend to RP with it:

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Location: Red on the map
Name of Country: Pelasgia
Capital City: Propontis
Location of Capital City: as currently on map
Additional Major Cities (Max 2): Krini (as on map); Thermi (as on map)
Additional Minor Cities (Max 3): Attaleia (as on map); Hagios Andreas (as on map); Aspropol (as on map)
Miscellaneous: For IC reasons, please also show Hierosolyma as a Holy City, as currently on the map

Couple of tweeks might be necessary. I didn't own the Holy land anymore, Anti-state does, so you may need to clear that up with them. Also, we can move Antiotchia down a bit as it will be Aresura's Capital.

 

[Pelasgia]

Couple of tweeks might be necessary. I didn't own the Holy land anymore, Anti-state does, so you may need to clear that up with them. Also, we can move Antiotchia down a bit as it will be Aresura's Capital.

Feel totally free to move, Antiochia.

Re: the Holy Land, AS can keep owning it, we should find an IC reason for it--or we can work something else out. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Radilo]

Feel totally free to move, Antiochia.

Re: the Holy Land, AS can keep owning it, we should find an IC reason for it--or we can work something else out. Thanks for the heads up.

Definitely.

The current/previous ic reason was that it was occupied by Radilo in the 15/16th centuries, as crusading was still a big deal to la Serenissima, but it was never politically stable or economically productive. After the Great War, it wasn't worth it anymore, so Radilo handed it over to the nse version of Zionists who are also PDists. So it became part of the blob known as anti-state.