Official Map Thread :- 08.09.1955

[Oneida]

UPDATE!:

Location : http://postimg.org/image/kn4yjxbmf/ - south-western portion of 013
Name of Country : The Grand Duchy of Braberbourg
Capital : Braberbourg
Location of Capital : Centre of the country

Considering the size of the country, I don't expect the nation's full name to be on it, nor the capital city.

why not take all of 013? I'm doubtful anyone else will.

 

[Braberbourg]

why not take all of 013? I'm doubtful anyone else will.

Braberbourg is a mostly mountainous state with around 700,000 inhabitants, I don't think it's handy to have a lot of territory around.

 

[Längerland]

Braberbourg is a mostly mountainous state with around 700,000 inhabitants, I don't think it's handy to have a lot of territory around.

The size makes sense, but for RP's sake, it would be great if you bordered both me and Großlausitz. If you can't make that work on the map, I'm sure the mapmaker could use his skill to help out, if you were interested.

 

[Braberbourg]

The size makes sense, but for RP's sake, it would be great if you bordered both me and Großlausitz. If you can't make that work on the map, I'm sure the mapmaker could use his skill to help out, if you were interested.

While I don't really like the idea of the country being TOO large, I can support the idea of it becoming a little bit larger and that it would be moved a bit further north-west to border Großlausitz. It's up to the mapmaker for the final decision though.

 

[Tyvia]

700,000 is going to be a ridiculously low number, even if you were to use the original plot proposal. All your neighbors are in the tens of millions range, and I'm not sure what real RP you'd be getting as an ultimately irrelevant microstate. It's fine if you want to play a small or relatively minor nation, but I'd even so at least buff yourself up a bit so that you at least have some capacity to throw some small weight around as to create RP rather than just seek it out.

 

[Längerland]

700,000 is going to be a ridiculously low number, even if you were to use the original plot proposal. All your neighbors are in the tens of millions range, and I'm not sure what real RP you'd be getting as an ultimately irrelevant microstate. It's fine if you want to play a small or relatively minor nation, but I'd even so at least buff yourself up a bit so that you at least have some capacity to throw some small weight around as to create RP rather than just seek it out.

I wholeheartedly disagree. Längerland's population is only 7.8 million people (Sweden was 8 million in the 50s and 60s, now about 10 million and look at its industry and influence). Braberbourg is basing it off Luxembourg, which has 400k people, yet it's influence and economy is significant for its population. Granted, his map size will be oversized for his population, perhaps, but it's not impossible. Iceland has a large island for 300k people. He's saying it will be mountainous, so perhaps like Switzerland, most of the population will probably live in the valleys and the main city.

Maybe the mapmaker could tweak other borders to make the size and shape work so that he can still border as many active countries as possible, but I really don't see the issue with his population. In fact, I think many RPers here have always had oversize populations, which should especially be noted now given that we are RPing in 1955, when, in RL at least, populations were significantly lower than today. Of course, it all depends on what country(ies) you are basing yours off of, if any.

 

[Remuria]

I won't make you change your mind. But I've done the Luxembourg-like microstate thing in the past, like many real life years ago. I had a good run because I resorted to tricky and shady international politics for lulzy resuts, but honestly the amount of crazy active players was much higher back then. Today players are mostly rational active, and there isn't all that huge a number. So you'll quickly come to see the limits of your RP.

Also, you're already rather limiting yourself beng landlocked right from the start

 

[Braberbourg]

700,000 is going to be a ridiculously low number, even if you were to use the original plot proposal. All your neighbors are in the tens of millions range, and I'm not sure what real RP you'd be getting as an ultimately irrelevant microstate. It's fine if you want to play a small or relatively minor nation, but I'd even so at least buff yourself up a bit so that you at least have some capacity to throw some small weight around as to create RP rather than just seek it out.

I won't make you change your mind. But I've done the Luxembourg-like microstate thing in the past, like many real life years ago. I had a good run because I resorted to tricky and shady international politics for lulzy resuts, but honestly the amount of crazy active players was much higher back then. Today players are mostly rational active, and there isn't all that huge a number. So you'll quickly come to see the limits of your RP.

Also, you're already rather limiting yourself beng landlocked right from the start

Well, I've thought about it and I'm open for a larger nation (including by both population and land mass) although I probably won't proceed my original number of inhabitants by too much (perhaps 2 million at a max.). If it's possible, could I then get both my proposed area, plus the area between that and Großlausitz?

Also, I'm not that much bothered with being landlocked

 

[Rheinbund]

The advantage of being landlocked is that you don't need a navy

 

[Ivernia]

when, in RL at least, populations were significantly lower than today. Of course, it all depends on what country(ies) you are basing yours off of, if any.

We've had a few debates over this issue over the years. But it boils down to our Europe does not 1:1 with RL Europe. We had no WW1, no WW2 or Stalinist purges or this genocide or that spanish flu, that would have made our nations' populations mirror the RL populations of the day. We have no ''Great Wars'' in recent history where whole generations of men were lost and several attempts to create any were met with lackluster interest. Also the rate at which nations come and go is another problem for ''regional history''.

These days especially I'd like to see us distance ourselves from RL Europe as it tends to pigeonhole archetypes and stifle creative RP.

 

[Natal]

Can you more Selburg a little to the west, like how it's positioned on this map?

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[Holy Frankish Empire]

Braberbourg is a mostly mountainous state with around 700,000 inhabitants, I don't think it's handy to have a lot of territory around.

700,000 is going to be a ridiculously low number, even if you were to use the original plot proposal. All your neighbors are in the tens of millions range, and I'm not sure what real RP you'd be getting as an ultimately irrelevant microstate. It's fine if you want to play a small or relatively minor nation, but I'd even so at least buff yourself up a bit so that you at least have some capacity to throw some small weight around as to create RP rather than just seek it out.

If you take a smaller sized plot, a small nation can be a lot of RP fun. However, it takes a lot more time to shape such a nation. I did Nicosia for awhile which had around a million inhabitants. I got some interesting RP out of it until we decided to turn back the clock to the 1950's. Like I said though, if you take an appropriate map slot with such a nation it can be fun

 

[Thaumantica]

UPDATE -- 28.06

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This is the norm now anyways, irregular updates, but I for sure will not be updating again until 15 July at the earliest due to a trip. Bless you all.

 

[Remuria]

Woo! Thanks! Nichtstein can into pixelz!

 

[Ecclestia]

How many people on this forum actually still play NS????

 

[Holy Frankish Empire]

How many people on this forum actually still play NS????

Not really the place to ask this question, but few if any still do.

 

[Ivernia]

Yeah also how does one ''play'' NS? Ivernia still exists there anyways although it had expired several times.

 

[Remuria]

Yeah also how does one ''play'' NS? Ivernia still exists there anyways although it had expired several times.

By doing the same shit as here: POSTINATING!

 

[Rheinbund]

Eiffelland also still exists on NationStates. We evolve from it anyway.

 

[Natal]

Can you please delete Galindia from the map?