Official Map Thread :- One

[Montroulez]

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Name of Country :- Montroulez
Capital :- Keararzhel
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:- [wiki]Montroulez[/wiki]

 

[Kadikistani Union]

@Engellex
I do appreciate how you worked on finding a solution to the Kadikistan-Kyiv Pixel Crisis, but I have to say that I don't see it working. I have exploited geography in my RP so intensely that an entirely different location would cost me more time and trouble than actually starting a new nation. Kadikistan's foreign policy has been my most written subject, I do not rely on it completely as my internal RP's also took up an important place, but I can safely say that the activity generated by my malevolence has been significant the past two years and for a large part due to my location. The South is the Kadikistani (industrial) heartland, but also my gates to the Kalahari which generated great RP's such as those with Pelasgia, Justiza and the Status Quo Treaty. The North is a stronghold for the clans, the granary of Kadikistan and I could see them splitting off but I think it where Kyiv is least interested in. My reach into the East generated significant RP with both the Jurzan and the Basin but also Varanasi. My reach into the west, perhaps my most significant one, justified and supported countless interventions in Germania, Scania and in lesser amount even Gallia. Rurikgrad, my second city which I RP'd even more than my actual capital, has been instrumental in my interventions in Veniasufia/Lauenburg/Mehldorf, Ivernia, Saaremaa/Cumbria/Varinia, Gouw Marken and Borovanger. To scratch those and thus also Calidia and Kadikistani-controlled Milesia, the Leninovist faction in Borovanger, training camps and logistical support for the member parties of the International along with those in the Kalahari, Touyou and Himyar would mean rewriting all of my history and that would frankly just be a major bummer resulting in lesser activity.

Once again, just justifying my reasonning, this does not effect the legitimacy of Kyiv's claim. I was too late in reintroducing myself as an active member of this community after a few months of almost nothing and that's entirely on me.

 

[Tyonic Confederacy]

I don't know how we could do this, but maybe mirror the collapse of the USSR and the collapse of Kadikistan. Therefore keeping the history of Kadikistan and say Kyiv would be the nation that emerged from the fall of Kadikistan, and if I remember reading correctly Kadikistan did mention he might want to play a new nation. I don't know how this idea sounds to everyone else, but this could work if both sides are willing to contribute.

 

[Great Engellex]

The South is the Kadikistani (industrial) heartland, but also my gates to the Kalahari which generated great RP's such as those with Pelasgia, Justiza and the Status Quo Treaty.

You can still have that access if you want it. That north-east corner is huge, it shouldn't be impossible to work out how to divide it for two players. We can use enclaves etc. to ensure access points, which should also be useful for stimulating IC points of interest.

My reach into the East generated significant RP with both the Jurzan and the Basin but also Varanasi. My reach into the west, perhaps my most significant one, justified and supported countless interventions in Germania, Scania and in lesser amount even Gallia.

Jurzan hasn't been removed, mostly because I agree with Xen in that it should not be folded into a huge spot. But again the same point above applies to this too.

Rurikgrad, my second city which I RP'd even more than my actual capital, has been instrumental in my interventions in Veniasufia/Lauenburg/Mehldorf, Ivernia, Saaremaa/Cumbria/Varinia, Gouw Marken and Borovanger. To scratch those and thus also Calidia and Kadikistani-controlled Milesia, the Leninovist faction in Borovanger, training camps and logistical support for the member parties of the International along with those in the Kalahari, Touyou and Himyar would mean rewriting all of my history and that would frankly just be a major bummer resulting in lesser activity.

I would expect you to keep all these things, there is no reason to remove them.

Once again, just justifying my reasoning, this does not effect the legitimacy of Kyiv's claim. I was too late in reintroducing myself as an active member of this community after a few months of almost nothing and that's entirely on me.

I appreciate that, but, as said, that corner is huge and should be able to accommodate you both. So, come on, let's get creative. I want to do a map update, and I'm waiting on you both to iron out these borders.

 

[Great Engellex]

I don't know how we could do this, but maybe mirror the collapse of the USSR and the collapse of Kadikistan. Therefore keeping the history of Kadikistan and say Kyiv would be the nation that emerged from the fall of Kadikistan, and if I remember reading correctly Kadikistan did mention he might want to play a new nation. I don't know how this idea sounds to everyone else, but this could work if both sides are willing to contribute.

Yes, world building options, I like.

 

[Salen]

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Name of Country :- Gedeland, Kingdom of the Gedelands
Capital :- Alre
Location of Capital :- Central, as shown on the map.
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:- Will create one soon, apologies.

Summary:

In general Gedeland would be a nordic country, more precisely however a blend of Netherlandic, Nordic and even Gothic influences (hence the Land of the Gedes). Language-wise it would be Flemish with Gothic hints and alphabet (cf. Dutch Gouwmarken to the south), veiled in Germanic, Netherlandic and Scandinavian culture in terms of religion, mentality, ethnicity and architecture. Politically it is an elected monarchy (King of the Geeds), a unitary state with a devolved system of government and considered a middle power.

In terms of geography the northern regions would resemble a full Scandinavian-type climate and outlay while the southern parts are alike northern Germany or the Netherlands. Population size and density would be limited due to mountainous characteristics and limited agricultural areas.

 

[Vinedia]

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Name of Country: Republic of Vinedia
Capital: Vinedia
Location of Capital: The blue dot as shown in the map
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Vinedia in a nutshell:

A country openly, largely if not entirely inspired by the institutions and the history of the Republic of Venice, portrayed into the modern world. An ancient country with a glorious history that managed to survive countless challenges and threats but failed to adapt itself to the modern world. As a result, Vinedia merely represents a shadow of its former self. A country that, as i said, struggles to fit into the modern world due to its stagnant, obsolete and conservative economic and political system. Vinedia is desperately trying to reform itself, but the old oligarchy (theorically replaced by a democratic parliamentary system) is still alive and controls the economic and political life of the country. It is faced by a new and vibrant political class, supported by a young and modern generation of Vinedians who tend to be more "liberal" and open minded.

 

[Great Engellex]

I'll be aiming to do an update within the next few days.

@Kyiv @Kadikistan am I giving the spot to Kyiv, keeping as Kadikistan, or finding a way to split it between you both? Some clarity would be appreciated guys.

@Rashan I can give you half of that spot, north or south. Traditionally Scania has been popular for players, so I cannot give it all away unfortunately.

 

[Natal]

I was thinking of this compromise for Kadikistan and Kyiv:

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Kadikistan taking the green half and Kyiv the southern half.

 

[Caelia]

I was thinking of this compromise for Kadikistan and Kyiv:

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Kadikistan taking the green half and Kyiv the southern half.

Why can't Kadikistan be moved to the northern spot next to Satakunta as it is? It keeps Kadikistan in the general area. Take the piece of the old spot north of Vartenik and south of Krachno to connect it to the continent.

 

[Great Engellex]

Why can't Kadikistan be moved to the northern spot next to Satakunta as it is? It keeps Kadikistan in the general area. Take the piece of the old spot north of Vartenik and south of Krachno to connect it to the continent.

This is a dilemma.

@Kadikistan has been honourable in accepting that, due to the hasty absence post he made, he should be rightfully replaced by an active player, though he has expressed that he wished he didn't post what he did.

Now, with respect to activity on the forum, RP has basically evolved around Kadikistan principally, and a few others, over the last year or two? And I do not believe anyone wants to see Kadikistan replaced, or cornered out of IC existence. Not just because of fairness and consideration to Kadikistan, but also - and more importantly from my point of view - in consideration of the wider RP and activity on the forum.

But, Kyiv, you also need to have a spot, where you want, on the map.

There has to be a way in which both of you - @Kadikistan @Kyiv - can exist in that corner, with sufficient pixels, and access points for interaction, that is acceptable to you both.

I will divide it however you both want.

 

[Tyonic Confederacy]

So I take it Kadikistan and Kyiv don't like my idea then...

 

[Gunnland]

In principle we should all be committed to what's best for our collective storytelling project here, and I think all sorts of "claims" and "dilemmas" and the language of fairness and entitlement should take a backseat to what's best in IC/in-game terms. I assume we only let anyone on the map because there is an implicit promise to enrich the world we're building. Just my two cents to add to @Geotri -- Kadikistan is a big part of the story here, did Kyiv jump in with a better one?

I should add that I've been impressed with the way the forums are administered and moderated these days (after my hiatus of many years) because there is a concern for worldbuilding and realism and history... a kind of background that makes our nations more realistic and allows for a richer common game, but which is elastic enough for folks to do what they want. It's like many of us are 10 years older... (whelp.)

 

[Salen]

I'll be aiming to do an update within the next few days.

@Rashan I can give you half of that spot, north or south. Traditionally Scania has been popular for players, so I cannot give it all away unfortunately.

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Can I have the southern part including the isles as depicted on this image?

 

[Great Engellex]

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Map updated.​

 

[Socialist Commonwealth]

As I bitched on the chat before, I am very unhappy with how the SWR mapspot looks right now and have a request I hope you are willing to approve: place the SWR as small continent/large island into the area of the Eastern Islands, possibly with a chain of islands connecting it to your colonies and eastern Himyar. Maybe with a small exclave on mainland Himyar to anchor it to whatever future player might seek to establish themselves there. I feel like this overall will fit better with the "theme" of the SWR, but also reestablishes the SWR as "inbetween" Implarian and Clarencian Ocean.

As very rough outline to what I want, see here:

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[Great Engellex]

That should not be a problem, but you need to update your account first. #photobucket

 

[Socialist Commonwealth]

What do you mean. What about it doesn't work?

 

[Socialist Commonwealth]

Nevermind:

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