Official Flat Map Thread :- VB16

[Tyvia]

Alright, so for EVERYONE ELSE this will mean shifting the entire continent of Himyar slightly south to ensure the channel between Carentania and Solaren does not become a river that they could build a bridge over when Carentania is enlarged. If you OBJECT please say so now, this update will probably happen sometime this weekend or early next week otherwise.

If you're going to move it slightly to the south, could you simultaneously tilt it somewhat eastward? Otherwise, the distance between Touyou and Himyar will only grow larger, and the strait between them become increasingly irrelevant.

 

[Thaumantica]

Probably yes, but again only if there aren't objections.

 

[Ionia]

Probably yes, but again only if there aren't objections.

I have no objections but how far? Is it Kyiv-Ionia far or Ionia-Tyrrhenia far?

 

[Thaumantica]

Well what do you think, would we really move it Kyiv to Ionia far? I'm guessing that it'll be somewhere between 10-25 pixels south, and I'm not sure how far the tilt would go.

 

[Thaumantica]

VB8 Update:

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Instead of a white stroke fade there's now a black stroke fade on the borders, and the font is now different. Additionally: starting to add bodies of water back on the map, I put the ones I remembered on - so if I got one wrong or you want to start adding to it again please say so.

 

[Sixia]

Migration of Beishan to T4.

Location: T4
Name of Country: Sixia
Pertinent Threads/Wiki: Will do one soon

As I've asked before, here's the plot proposal change I will present to you. Yujin has no problems with the changes to the lake. I wish for the plot to be drawn like the green borders. Anything outside of the green line that was original plot is meant to be water.

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[Mergogne]

Would it be possible to label the body of water between Mergogne and Frescania as the "Matiz-Fournier Channel"? Aus and I agreed on this awhile ago.

 

[Khemia]

Would it be possible to change North Seora's color to Communist Red, as it is staunchly Communist and receiving heavy aid from Commie countries? I'd also like to request that Yujin be recolored into the same color used by Wiese. I'm not a big fan of salmon or peach. Also, as Sixia is going to be a regional naval power at T4 I'd like to rename the South Yujin Sea to the Jade Sea, which I believe was it's original name.

 

[Toungoo]

Here is the spot claim I would like for Sri Siva. Could I get T3 with parts of T2 that are colored with green. Feel free to make the border i drew more realistic I just would like an opening the that lake if possible. I wasnt sure which island went with T3 so I circled those i would like to have in green as well. image is linked for a larger version.

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[Serenierre]

Since Yujin is changing his colour, might mine be changed to the one used on Ostveg, its a nice shade. Thank you

 

[Thaumantica]

I'm not going to promise that anyone will change color, it usually comes down to what all of the neighboring countries are already. When I look at the file this weekend I'll try though.

 

[Serenierre]

That's alright, Yanksy. I just don't like the olive that I am. Nearly every other colour on the map is awesome though. You could change Yujin's colour but give me the colour that he currently has and I'd a happy lil warmonger.

 

[Ionia]

Well since others are also changing their colours could mine be changed to blue in the same shade to that used by the Fennian Union?

 

[Shinosaka]

Would it be possible to change North Seora's color to Communist Red, as it is staunchly Communist and receiving heavy aid from Commie countries? I'd also like to request that Yujin be recolored into the same color used by Wiese. I'm not a big fan of salmon or peach. Also, as Sixia is going to be a regional naval power at T4 I'd like to rename the South Yujin Sea to the Jade Sea, which I believe was it's original name.

Why you would like to change my colors???

 

[SoCRUR]

Can the following be implemented :-

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Essentially, Engellex to those defined borders. Zadar-Istria removed. Lisse, and Bangala (unless someone else wants it) removed.

Can A be named - Tharrama

H - Otho-Eam

B - Enguerrand Is.

I'll be putting details to this tomorrow in the Engellex thread.

 

[Socialist Commonwealth]

Can the following be implemented :-

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Essentially, Engellex to those defined borders. Zadar-Istria removed. Lisse, and Bangala (unless someone else wants it) removed.

Can A be named - Tharrama

H - Otho-Eam

B - Enguerrand Is.

I'll be putting details to this tomorrow in the Engellex thread.

I'm a bit sceptical here, as I think this would give you too much power through purely OOC means. You've indicated as much yourself with the conveniently drawn out triangle of power and while your control over the eastern end of the Long Sea would likely not be as strong as Carentanian control of the west, given the channel of water is much tighter, I just feel it sets bad precedent if the one position is achieved by over 2 years of RPing towards that end, butting heads with other regional powers who were well aware of the implications, while the other is just claimed, no chances to interfere in the process at all.

On a more general note, I feel current colonies are hardly RP'd at all and just placing them on the map for means of having outposts to project power defies the whole intention behind the system.

 

[SoCRUR]

I'm a bit sceptical here, as I think this would give you too much power through purely OOC means. You've indicated as much yourself with the conveniently drawn out triangle of power and while your control over the eastern end of the Long Sea would likely not be as strong as Carentanian control of the west, given the channel of water is much tighter, I just feel it sets bad precedent if the one position is achieved by over 2 years of RPing towards that end, butting heads with other regional powers who were well aware of the implications, while the other is just claimed, no chances to interfere in the process at all.

It may appear this is conceived for a pure power projection, but I give that reasoning to the illustrated triangle which was for the convenience of explaining territorial groupings, rather than any conceived grasp to sovereignty over that area. I should also add, that A was to be further east, but the vacant islands I intended are not vacant any more. Additionally, I cannot see how the position of those territories, and what Carentania is attempting in the Long Sea, anyway compare; the distances between them are too great for any proposed, effective, naval operation other than what can already be achieved from using New Engellex - in fact, it withdraws effective Engellexic naval capabilities firmly in to that corner, as opposed to all the way up north where the Long Sea is.

On a more general note, I feel current colonies are hardly RP'd at all and just placing them on the map for means of having outposts to project power defies the whole intention behind the system.

Should you permit me to put details to this, as I included in the post, you would likely come to the conclusion that Engellex would, from OOC perspective, constitute the colony.

Last evening, when I accepted the conclusion of Lisse or Engellex, I opted for Lisse- and had in mind to propose changes that would have Lisse and Vistrasia in the same format as I am pushing for Engellex and the Crowned Provinces, as I was never comfortable with Lisse, Hulst and Vistrasia occupying all that land area for apparently small countries. However, given the words from Xen and Yanksy, I accepted Engellex shouldn't be removed, and opted to merge the two completely.

Engellex becomes a small, by territory, naval power, sacrificing the expansions I achieved in my years of RPing Engellex; and introducing the Crowned Provinces as a constituent state of the Empire. In doing so, Engellex and her commitments remain, the aspects of Lisse that I really liked remain; Engellex is reduced in size, and I no longer RP a country within an alliance, something of a great sacrifice in my view, as I haven't RPed a country since Britnae that was in an alliance.

 

[Ionia]

Can the following be implemented :-

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Essentially, Engellex to those defined borders. Zadar-Istria removed. Lisse, and Bangala (unless someone else wants it) removed.

Can A be named - Tharrama

H - Otho-Eam

B - Enguerrand Is.

I'll be putting details to this tomorrow in the Engellex thread.

Hmm I'd be interested in Zadar Isrtia. Could they be transferred to me? I was planning on filling a colony application soon so can they be included? Don't worry I was planning to take like six pixels, something pretty tiny, so I won't be claiming much land.

 

[Bangala]

Ok, In then I will assume Bangala and Hulst can be removed (As Implaria and the Southern Cape), thanks.

 

[Josepania]

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Requesting a name-change of Danmark on the map to The Commonwealth, if you please.

Thanks much!