I just want to state for the record that as a player on the Occidentian continent, i do not approve of Ionia's move to the area, he has not made a single attempt to coordinate history between me or Auraria (Oxy's only other major player), his greek majority is a violation of ethnic clustering rules, his population is too high for the region and that his overall approach to RP, as seen through his previous iterations of his nations, will be for the most part toxic and disruptive to what has already been established in Occidentian RP history.
From what I have seen in the idea thread, I believe that Jurzy would agree, correct me if I am wrong.
Ionia's request post:You must be registered for see links
Ionia's idea thread (mostly a large player disapproval of the idea).:You must be registered for see links
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The two potential neighbors objecting to the @You must be registered for see linksrequest does make things problematic. If they do not gel with the new nation, and do not intent to RP/cooperate with it, this will be a failed project before it even begins.
Sticking with Ionia and ironing out the issues is probably the best plan. Alternatively Ionia the player could take a look at some of the problems his potential neighbors have with his request, and try to find some compromises and alterations that make the regional RP project viable. As is, the request cannot be filled in good conscious with so many objections.
Noted but I think as long as it doesn't break rules it's OK to go forward with it. Eiffelland, the guy who's supped to have colonized the UCA is OK with it, so I don't thin there's a problem. And Sylvnaia said he'd ignore me so I don't think a cooperation is possible whether I try it or not.
You only serve to antagonize people who, in truth, you'd be better off trying to work with. I understand that you're here to have your own fun, and that's respectable in of itself, but please do remember that what we do here is collaborative storytelling. When people have a problem with an idea you're putting forward, it's not just because you're the one putting the idea forward. Perhaps it conflicts with something established? Maybe it doesn't seem to fit in with the overall atmosphere or theme of a region? Whatever the reason, an effort should always be made to understand why people hold the views they do, because in the context of this game they do have value. Everyone who contributes has an opinion of value, and if you intend to play here and engage in this collaborative game, I implore you to take heed of it.Yo usaid you'd ingore me so why should I cooeprate you. Stop trying to sabotage my nation, you have no power over what I want to RP.
I just want to state for the record that as a player on the Occidentian continent, i do not approve of Ionia's move to the area, he has not made a single attempt to coordinate history between me or Auraria (Oxy's only other major player), his greek majority is a violation of ethnic clustering rules, his population is too high for the region and that his overall approach to RP, as seen through his previous iterations of his nations, will be for the most part toxic and disruptive to what has already been established in Occidentian RP history.
From what I have seen in the idea thread, I believe that Jurzy would agree, correct me if I am wrong.
Ionia's request post:You must be registered for see links
Ionia's idea thread (mostly a large player disapproval of the idea).:You must be registered for see links
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There is nothing said here that I do not agree with.
I did say, and will continue to stand by, my usage of the ignore cannon and will not engage in RP with Ionia unless several changes are made.
Firstly, I believe there should be cooperation with Occidentia's history and how Eiffeland's colony (Ionia's new nation) was not swallowed up by more powerful colonizers (namely Great Engellex and Frescania).
I do not have a problem with a Greek nation in Occidentia, albeit it a stretch. Occidentia is a land of colonization, so all nations are not natives of the area (unless you play a Native Americanesque nation). However, a population of 68 million and a MAJORITY Greek nation, to me, is preposterous. Sylvania's population is 50 million, Centralia's is 21 million, and Auraria's will peak at like 21 or 22 (once Nicoya is fully integrated through RP). I do not see how a population of majority Greeks being 68 million is possible.
I know Zeek eradicated native populations and Auraria had natives and colonizers mixing to form a new ethnicity (the Auros, RL Mestizos), which explains how our colonizing ethnicities have majorities. In fact, the Frescanian ethnicity (which would have been the colonizers) are still in existence and a very small minority.
So, @You must be registered for see links, I will accept your Greek Occident Nation, but please take the following into consideration:
1) Cooperate with Sylvania and Auraria to integrate what will inevitably be another powerhouse into the continent.
2) Drop the population to something much smaller.
OR
3) Create a nation similar to apartheid South Africa. Where Greeks make up a minority, but have complete political, economic, and cultural power. This idea actually is intriguing to me as it deviates from the typical bastion of liberal democracy that is Occidentia.
Those islands are fairly weird considering their geographical proximity to Frescania as an colonial nation. If anything, you should request the islands to be moved further north.
Also on unrelated note, how silly would it be to have a Toyou country have a late colony in Himyar or anywhere else nearby?
I considered creating a South Africa-meets-Daimyo idea of a Touzen colony in Himyar lording over a majority black or Arab population myself. It should be perfectly feasible, there's nothing in NSEs background to prevent Toyou from being a hypothetical origin of colonies.