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Khemia

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Question: what impact will have on NSEurope military RP in the future?
Dear god. I could rip this thing apart piece by piece and point out every flaw. But the most fundamental flaw: this is a machine developed by a civilian industry for the civilian sector in a nation which prohibits even handgun ownership. Do you think it honestly has military capability aside from firing BB's?

'With the alignment set appropriately the system will fire BBs when the pilot smiles.’
*Shiver* I'm so afraid of BB's. It's Japan, they probably misspoke and meant airsoft rounds, BB's are probably prohibited too. If you want real robots, look at the Korean sentry guns or the American Gladiator.

As for the future of weapons development in the modern world, and the requirements of RP, we have an issue:

99% of RP wars are fought in third-generation style. They focus on tanks, fronts, divisions, set piece battles. However, modern RL wars are fought very differently. Wars between state entities are rare, and fourth generation warfare is more common. We might even be transitioning into fifth generation warfare, digital warfare by non-state entities against non-state entities. What this means for RP: Very little of the weapons developed between 1991-present by the West are practical in a third generation-style war. Nearly all of it is developed to combat non-state entities, or in regions where opposing forces are not technologically advanced enough to counter systems such as stealth. So, when people look at the F-35 or UGV's and think they'd be good tools for a third generation war, they need to think again. There is little use for robots when a war is between armies of hundreds of thousands of men using missiles, jets, and other weapons which can easily kill targets BVR.

Look at Syria, for example. They are using third generation tools to combat fourth generation warfare. It's very unsuccessful for a variety of reasons. For one, using 20,000 troops to bombard the largest city in their nation to stamp out the rebels will not defeat the rebels. They will find some ways to get out, they will continue fighting, and all the displaced citizens from the violence are more likely to take up arms against the government which is destroying their homes, schools, and places of employment. If they used American tactics; that is, the use of military intelligence combined with precision weapons, they could bleed the rebels dry without causing grievances to the citizens, who are thus less likely to join the rebellion. There is a reason for terrorism: large unemployed 20-25 year old cohorts have nothing else to do with their lives. The massive boost within these unemployed age groups could even potentially have been a cause for the Arab Spring, but that's demographic conjecture that can't be proven, and has nothing to do with the military.

In short, most players tend to stick with tech we know works in third generation warfare. Tanks, non-stealth jets, bombers, etc. Using fourth generation tech in third generation combat tends to lead to disaster in RP, and not the win people think will happen. Simply because that stuff, like F-35's, wasn't developed or built to fight a war against foes who are equal in technology. They aren't cheap enough or easy enough to duplicate to be useful in a war of attrition.
 

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1. No super soldiers.
2. No giant robots.

DWI
 

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What do you mean Meribia? Like the power armour from Fallout or Warhammer 40k?
 

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What does "part-time duty" mean?
I'd guess it's similar to a "Reserve" or "National Guard" role, where training or maneuvers is not the soldier's full-time occupation (perhaps a monthly or bi-monthly training situation). Where did you read this, and what did it apply to?
 

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Part time duty can mean anything and it all depends on the context:
1. Professional soldier who is available 24/7 for duty, but who comes to "work" for a set number of hours per day and spends the rest at home. It can go from anywhere and sometimes even the "office hours" soldiers can be considered as "part time duty".
2. Professional soldier who is in the reserve, having been trained and with some experience, and who is called up for duty X time per Y period of time on a fixed schedule.
3. Professional soldier who is in the reserve, having been trained and with some experience, and who is called up for duty as and when required without a fixed schedule.
3. A volunteer (paid or unpaid) soldier who serves X time per Y period of time. It can be one weekend a month, it can be one month a year, you name it, but a schedule.
4. A conscripted soldier who served his time, but who is filed off into the reserves and who has to show up for duty as and when required. Usually this case is without schedule.
5. A conscripted soldier who has to undergo X refreshers in Y period of time. Think Switzerland, Israel, Singapore.
 

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Would VX gas be within our technological threshold year-wise? As far as I understand, the V series nerve agents in general were developed in the early 1950s IRL, but VX was first mass-produced from 1960 or something due to political reasons ie. Britain renouncing chemical weapons developed in 1956, and later giving the VX data to the Americans in exchange for assistance in developing a nuclear weapon.

I'm wondering if the research being done already in the early 50s would make VX permissible for RPed development. I've already referred to a Fennian "V Program" in my High Halls thread pertaining to the V series in general.
 

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Would VX gas be within our technological threshold year-wise? As far as I understand, the V series nerve agents in general were developed in the early 1950s IRL, but VX was first mass-produced from 1960 or something due to political reasons ie. Britain renouncing chemical weapons developed in 1956, and later giving the VX data to the Americans in exchange for assistance in developing a nuclear weapon.

I'm wondering if the research being done already in the early 50s would make VX permissible for RPed development. I've already referred to a Fennian "V Program" in my High Halls thread pertaining to the V series in general.
You could definitely use G-series nerve agents.

V agents were still being researched as pesticides in the early 1950's, the weaponization potential doesn't seem to have been discovered until sometime later (VG was being sold as a pesticide as late as 1954).
 

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You could definitely use G-series nerve agents.

V agents were still being researched as pesticides in the early 1950's, the weaponization potential doesn't seem to have been discovered until sometime later (VG was being sold as a pesticide as late as 1954).
I already am using the G series, just that I wanted to RP development of the V series and whatnot, obviously recognizing the appropriate length of the development period and whatnot.
 
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It is little known by many, but it is a Ruger Mini, a kind o remake of the Garand has an assault Rifle in the late 60ties. Basically they have not brought nothing new to the firearms world, it is a carbine version of the M14! Assuming that has a portusgalian name, it can be considered the newest add to the Portusgalian arsenal? Like a kind of holy grail weapon from 1954? I like the design, its retro
 

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Uh, dont take me as an authority on this, an admin might say for sure, but since the M14 wasn't really full scale produced until 1959 then it could be outta range for the time period.

Since i sorta claim that Sylvania made the garand they might be working on an upgraded version ala M14.

Why not use the M1 Carbine instead as a paratrooper/carbine type rifle for your special guys or something.



this is the true miniaturized Garand.

You could say you retro actively bought these things from Sylvania or just copied them.
 
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Well, thats the point, I didn't wanna copy you xD But i can be an ideia, but if i use the M1 Carbine i'm gonna use a version with full auto. In fact it has existed one, but the US declined it, 700 RPM nice ;)
 
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Well, the Ak 47 uses a new kind of ammo, developed by the germans in ww2 with the 7,97 Kurz round! Assuming that there is in production a ak 47, we can assume that there are existing researshes for new types of round! For exemple, the 5,56 NATO, started being teorized by this time, 1954! Thats why i told if it is "legal" to assume that Portusgalia is advancing for the production of the Ruger Mini 14! The russian had the SKS carbine... And the M14 Rifle was in project! The Ruger Mini is so retro and late at the time of its creation (late 60ties) that resembles a 50ties automatic rifle!

But one of the main reason that I wont the Ruger Mini, is in fact that the portusgalian military personel is very conservative, and an assault rifle, even like the Stg44 is regarged has "strange", they are very used to bolt action rifles, better saying the typical rifle config... Semi-auto is for exemple, in their heads, as great achievement!
[MENTION=5]Sylvania[/MENTION], I will assume, with your permission, that for now, the portusgalian army has got their hands on a Garand rifle, and started copying its internal mechanism but with a new way of feeding. The Beretta BM59 fits very good on it:



In that way you can develop at the same time the M14!!!! :D

Notice one thing, Portusgalia still uses bolt action rifles, and cheap sub-machine guns ;)
 
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