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I am Richard from London, England. I am 25 and a full time student. Trying to achieve a masters degree in business management. I don't do drugs, smoke, or another crap. Also I love Rolls Royce cars. Fav food is italian. And my nation is 100% pro capitalist. As am I.
 

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To summarize: you are pretentious yuppie scum who has never - and will never- contribute anything useful to society.

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I am Richard from London, England. I am 25 and a full time student. Trying to achieve a masters degree in business management. I don't do drugs, smoke, or another crap. Also I love Rolls Royce cars. Fav food is italian. And my nation is 100% pro capitalist. As am I.

My country will like you. But OOCly your the opposite of people I like. Who doesn't ever do drugs? And who in goods god name is capitalist IRL?
 

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Who doesn't ever do drugs?

Me.

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And who in goods god name is capitalist IRL?

Everyone who thinks that death camps in the name of socialism and totalitarianism are not too cool and on the other hand enjoys the freedom of speech that enables you to oppose capitalism.
 
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Everyone who thinks that death camps in the name of socialism and totalitarianism are not too cool and on the other hand enjoys the freedom of speech that enables you to oppose capitalism.

Wow, so now Socialism=Stalinist Dictatorship? And suddenly Social-Democrats want to take away your freedom of speech? Wow, I must have picked the wrong ideology.
 

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If you look at Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea and actually prefer that to the USA (since that is were you live) or any other part of the free world, by all means go ahead and move there. I for my part prefer keeping the fruits of my labor and deciding whom I trust with leading my country instead of being part of some grand social engineering programs in the name of 'equality'.

Also, supporting socialism is so teens.
 
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If you look at Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea and actually prefer that to the USA (since that is were you live) or any other part of the free world, by all means go ahead and move there. I for my part prefer keeping the fruits of my labor and deciding whom I trust with leading my country instead of being part of some grand social engineering programs in the name of 'equality'.

Also, supporting socialism is so teens.

I'm not pro-hardocre commie. I'm pro-social democracy. One that uses the welfare system to actually create equality, and doesn't allow huge multi-national corporations to use lobbyists to pass absurd laws. For instance Monsanto is currently using lobbysist to try and gain support for a law that would force grocery stores to sell genetically modified milk... and they own almost all the geneticaly modified milk.
 

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You want to use the welfare system to create inequality? Stalinist!

Also, monopoly lobbyism is an enemy of the free market. That isn't an argument against capitalism, it is an argument against monopolies.
 

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I'm not pro-hardocre commie. I'm pro-social democracy. One that uses the welfare system to actually create equality, and doesn't allow huge multi-national corporations to use lobbyists to pass absurd laws.

Lolol. You know how much freedom of speech and freedom of choice that takes away, 'welfare systems'? I mean they can be a help for those who actually need them, but there's also some who don't do anything with their lives because they don't have to. You probably are too young and too sheltered to have seen it; but it's a big problem here in the US. Some people leeching off the Welfare system without having ever done a centimeter of work forthe common good of the United States of America, especially with them turning around and badmouthing the same country which didn't let them starve to death and be homeless because they didn't want to try to find a job/keep a job.

And I'm saying this as probably the poorest non-student within the forums. My mother made 2,000 USD last year and she's in a skilled trade. I made maybe 4,000 in the entire year, perhaps 6,000, I don't even remember. Yet I still don't see welfare states as a tool for great equality, get real.
 
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Lolol. You know how much freedom of speech and freedom of choice that takes away, 'welfare systems'? I mean they can be a help for those who actually need them, but there's also some who don't do anything with their lives because they don't have to. You probably are too young and too sheltered to have seen it; but it's a big problem here in the US. Some people leeching off the Welfare system without having ever done a centimeter of work forthe common good of the United States of America, especially with them turning around and badmouthing the same country which didn't let them starve to death and be homeless because they didn't want to try to find a job/keep a job.

And I'm saying this as probably the poorest non-student within the forums. My mother made 2,000 USD last year and she's in a skilled trade. I made maybe 4,000 in the entire year, perhaps 6,000, I don't even remember. Yet I still don't see welfare states as a tool for great equality, get real.

My family lives off of $17,000, and I have two brothers and two sisters. When you throw in em and my stepdad that's super shitty.
 

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Really? Because my I have two brothers and one sister, and my mom is a single parent, with her 'baby daddy' occassionally helping out with his two kids, but leaving my other brother out of the loop.

So don't even start this BS man, don't even start. The welfare system is abused throughout the country by people, no matter if you believe it or not.
 
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I am fully aware that the welfare system is abused. When the hell did I ever say it wasn't? Hell in that little chatbox I said that it WAS.

EDIT: Some Martin Sunter quotes: "I concur. There should also be some kind of check up system on people currently on welfare. To make sure they aren't 'cheating'."

"True, welfare is a tricky son of a bitch, sense in American right now its responsible for creating a lazy poor black/hispanic/occasionaly white population. It's because we're doing it wrong. "
 

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Take this discussion somewhere else if you please.

Meanwhile, to our newest members, Benvenuto ad NSEuropa!
 
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