Poll: Map Overhaul

[Josepania]

I can try to make a draft I guess, but I'd be wanting to do a bit more drastic change than the first proposal.

Anything is better than nothing, and there will be more stuff to debate and decide on.

 

[Rheinbund]

You people have a talent for starting major discussions about how to proceed with the forum when I'm drowning in work obligations

Anyway, I voted maybe. Like stated by many other people, a.o. Media, I think that a map overhaul should not disrupt any existing RPs, like the one concerning Cyclopeia. And with that said, if the map is redrawn, I want to at least keep my border with Nichtstein (conditio sine qua non), and I also want Cyclopeia in my neighbourhood to continue the RP he started and I am involved in.

A nice-to-have for me is my request in the map thread: To make my country a bit wider. Would that be possible?

EDIT: In the post quoted below, Media made a kind of a map proposal. I would agree with that proposal.

So, I tried to do something like that, by sinking Boreas, Camden, much of Himyar and much of Toyou. I moved Sikandara and Media to the west and kept some Asian spots to the South East of Sikandara. Eurodysney and Scania are kept the same, with the difference that Asylan sunk. Also, Himyar was mostly sunk and I kept the northern coast, Bangala and the colonies. This could work, if we were to delete the inactive nations that also have nothing to do with the current scenario and have not even been RPed, like Karolnia, Viken, Coeurleon, Ulstland (sadly ), Ujorszag, Bereguine, Portusgalia, Arretine Empire, Khnari Freehold, Avaria and the League of United Nations.

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[Rheinbund]

By the way, I would also be very happy if my nice-to-have would be incorporated into Media's map proposal

 

[Twente]

I won't pretend to have read all of your posts, but here's something I experienced a long time ago.

The biggest change in the map when I was mostly perceived to be an active party, was when Europe went from having land masses on the border, suggesting (like in real life) Europe is a continent connected to a broader world, to an island map. The latter one both strongly confirmed the idea of being a sole entity, isolated from the rest of the world or even excluding the rest of the world altogether (which I am fine with), as it made our world much bigger. The advantage of those borders on landmasses is that it gave our Europe a much more manageable and quaint feeling...to me anyway.

Here are examples of what I'm talking about:

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As I indicated, I haven't read all of your posts, so it may have come up already, it may also be just my personal impression.

Another thing I'd like to mention is scale? I've asked a talked about it before. I would like it to be more clear that there is one and also I wouldn't mine making our world a bit smaller. I can't remember from the top of my head, but I think I was told Twente is the size of Belgium*2 or 5 or 10 or something. I wouldn't mind if Twente was half the size of Belgium.

Good luck and be nice.

 

[Ivernia]

From Twente's post one of the things I would like to see is the ''distant landmass'' thing where ''the east'' is the land traling off of our map. For some reason I really like that idea, also the quaintness of it.

I'm just wondering how people would feel? A ''Europe World'' where all land is accounted for or a ''Europe Continent'' where a ''fog of war'' keeps us in our own lands.

Obviously I'm not going to be miffed if no one likes the eurocontinent one .

 

[Pelasgia]

Just saying my RP might not continue after the map reset. I have said this before but I think people might have not seen it. Right now Cyclopeia is going to need a decade to rebuild and I cannot do much but that for an RL decade due to Cyclopeia's weaknees so I do not think I will have motivation to play as Cyclopeia very much. Also because of the nature of Cyclopeia's government having a unified foreign policy other than being neutral is pretty much impossible due to ideological devides between Amphictyonies (states) with a veto power within Cyclopeia. The Cold War between my factions has also beeen very moderated because of the Confederate system and their armies being unified into a federal one. I do not think they can fight eachother with policemen, at least I hope not, but the Nikaians never fail to amase in this regard. I am considering a hellenistic multicultural nation in the Near East or North Africa or our equivalents of them. If the hellenistic state does not sound fun I could try a Socialist Greek state, I do not think that has happened ever in RL so it would be a nice twist. I am kind of ashamed to admit this but when I first started playing I thought that nations were created for an RP and not that nations made many RPs so I made Cyclopeia for "The Road". I actually realised during the switch to my RP's second phase which was pretty embarassing and I tried to "putch" Cyclopeia up so it might stand for another RP but despite my efforts right now my state is in a place where it can literally do nothing inside or outside without a third civil war, which I am think we have all had enough of. @

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Back to the maps I still prefer the idea of a world Europe but I really like all the map proposals. The more the merrier.

 

[Serenierre]

Are we going back to Classic? (map wise)

 

[Tyvia]

Are we going back to Classic? (map wise)

No one has suggested or even mentioned that.

 

[Thaumantica]

No one has suggested or even mentioned that.

To be fair I think Jose and others have been known to drop subtle hints in that direction. But no I don't think we will go full Back to the Future.

 

[Hanseatic Republics]

The classic inspired map might be a good idea. I think I'll alter my current draft to reflect that, with as Ivernia suggested... to the East.

EDIT: I hope to have my draft ready for viewership tomorrow afternoonish? PST.

 

[Josepania]

The classic inspired map might be a good idea. I think I'll alter my current draft to reflect that, with as Ivernia suggested... to the East.

EDIT: I hope to have my draft ready for viewership tomorrow afternoonish? PST.

Looking forward to it!

 

[Hanseatic Republics]

Sorry, it'll be a little late. Photoshop crashed, and I lost a ton of unsaved work. ;_;

 

[Oneida]

Sorry, it'll be a little late. Photoshop crashed, and I lost a ton of unsaved work. ;_;

3% deducted from your pay.

 

[Pelasgia]

Sorry, it'll be a little late. Photoshop crashed, and I lost a ton of unsaved work. ;_;

"To the brazen bull it is! You are not even fit to be a slave!" - Ancient Greece

"You shall be crucified, barbarian scum." - SPQR

"Hanged, drawn and quartered ye peasant!" - Medieval Europe

"To the pyre, heathen!" - You did not expect this one, did you? Nobody does!

"To gulag! IN KAMCHATKA!" - Comrade Stalin

"To the electric chair it is, ye sorry existence." - Dixie

 

[Rheinbund]

I just say "Spanking" in such a case

 

[Rheinbund]

Just saying my RP might not continue after the map reset. I have said this before but I think people might have not seen it. Right now Cyclopeia is going to need a decade to rebuild and I cannot do much but that for an RL decade due to Cyclopeia's weaknees so I do not think I will have motivation to play as Cyclopeia very much. Also because of the nature of Cyclopeia's government having a unified foreign policy other than being neutral is pretty much impossible due to ideological devides between Amphictyonies (states) with a veto power within Cyclopeia. The Cold War between my factions has also beeen very moderated because of the Confederate system and their armies being unified into a federal one. I do not think they can fight eachother with policemen, at least I hope not, but the Nikaians never fail to amase in this regard. I am considering a hellenistic multicultural nation in the Near East or North Africa or our equivalents of them. If the hellenistic state does not sound fun I could try a Socialist Greek state, I do not think that has happened ever in RL so it would be a nice twist. I am kind of ashamed to admit this but when I first started playing I thought that nations were created for an RP and not that nations made many RPs so I made Cyclopeia for "The Road". I actually realised during the switch to my RP's second phase which was pretty embarassing and I tried to "putch" Cyclopeia up so it might stand for another RP but despite my efforts right now my state is in a place where it can literally do nothing inside or outside without a third civil war, which I am think we have all had enough of. @

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It would be a pity if you quit Cyclopeia. All ingredients for a good cold war are there, and that is what I like On the other hand, I fully understand that you don't get any motivation out of RPing a crippled country, so I understand it that you want to start a different concept. Maybe we all can agree on an accellerated build-up in Cyclopeia? There is a historic precedent. In 2004, Qantrix fought a big internal civil war, but as soon as that civil war was over, the country got back on its feet in a couple of months and was allowed to RP armed forces of the size of the USA again.

 

[Ivernia]

I feel like Cyclopeia is an honest RPer so I wouldn't really mind an accelerated build up (Although that's not my decision alone to make). I mean if we had to do two-three years RPing the rebuild after every interesting story it would kinda ruin the whole world stage.

But I think Cyclopeia would have to decide if he wants to go ahead with the nation he's got too. As he said, he built it under the impression the nation is let go after an RP is completed.

 

[Pelasgia]

Well I would certainly like it if I could rebuild faster though I think we would need everyone at least in the immediate area to agree first. If we get their green light instead of abandoning Cyclopeia and all the stuff I and everyone else did in the RP I could transform it in-game and go for more RP and a cold war which would put Cyclopeia, Eiffelland, Collectivist Union and Auraria and maybe even more people in a huge mexican stand-off for the rest of the century. There seems to be a huge anti-communist and pro-communist contrast in many countries already so all we need is a 'physical' representation of that (like the Iron Curtain) and a couple of alliance and we are good to go.

Of course we would need to wait for the map update before we can do anythign major anyway. Let us hope I have not yet reached drinking age or Obama and Putin have not decided to wave their nuclear missiles around by the time it happens.

 

[Hanseatic Republics]

I don't mind either.

On a side note, I will have my map draft out on Sunday. Depending on hiccups, and I have a soccer match to attend.... It might be Monday morning for a few of you at the latest.

 

[Pelasgia]

Oh since I will probably stay at my curret spot (yay!) I do have a few notes about its shape. Obviously I like my borders with Auraria and others and my proximity with Eiffelland, CU etc. I would like it if that stayed so. I also like my long peninsula shape. I do have a small request. Maybe we could add a couple more islands on each side, like three on the left (west) and one of the right (east)? I do not just want them for shape I need them for my little RP reformation after the magically rapid rebuild. Well not exactly need but they would be very useful. Other than that I like my spot. Thank you.